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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:18 AM
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Is anyone else losing sleep or am I just going crazy?
Here it is, 1:15 AM, U.S. Est and I'm not able to sleep yet. The more I read, see and hear about the monkey & his herd, the more I feel like I'm watching some horrific fucked up movie. Maybe I'm naive or something, but I'm literally stunned each and every day at the things that this asshole gets away with. To make matters worse, it seems there's no one that's willing OR able to stop him. I feel like traveling the country, slapping the people's faces who voted him in, double slapping the ones who voted him BACK in and saying, "Wake up and smell the bullshit he's feeding us!" But I'd probably get sued for A&B. (sigh) Oh shit, is there any hope left?
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:19 AM
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1. Pace yourself. Find something to do which will make a difference. nt
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:24 AM
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5. Like what?
It seems that the more we try to make a difference, the more the Dems in office posture. Maybe I'm just rambling, but I sure miss the days when my family HAD money, choices and a good feeling about this country.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:27 AM
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10. Go to DNC Meetup tommorow and meet other people like you.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:33 AM
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13. That sounds like a good idea
but there's not much time. I don't work, but I watch my grandson so my daughter can work and go to college. She's been living with us 'cause she can't afford daycare, gets minimal support for college, etc. etc. etc. God, that sounds like Blah, Blah, Blah - We're all in the same sinking boat, right?
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:21 AM
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2. You are not alone.
I am normally an insomniac, but since the election it has gotten so bad that I don't even sleep during the times I used to... My instincts keep screaming at me to remain alert and watchful of everything that Bush and the Neo-Conservatives are doing. I feel this very strongly, and have actually had vivid nightmares of Bush's possible future agenda and the long-term affect of such.

:scared:
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:26 AM
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9. Me too!
Maybe I'm just looking too hard at the conspiracy theories, but when Bush first took office, I felt he COULD be the one to push the red button. Now that feeling is more strong than ever.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:23 AM
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3. still awake here...
The one that blows me away is the guy who gave Bush** the green light to torture POW's is going to be Attorney General of the United States of America.

Cutting back on the coffee would help but it's the only thing that makes me feel alive these days.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:23 AM
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4. I was like that a couple of years ago
...I still am occasionally. I just try to relate to those in 1930's Germany.... they had to keep healthy and well rested while fighting.

Let's just hope our story has a different ending.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:25 AM
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6. It's hard to sleep during the end of the world...
if you blink you might miss something interesting.

Me, I'm going skeet shooting when the fundies get "raptured"
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:25 AM
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7. I don't think you could be a decent American and not be worried as hell
about what is happening
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:26 AM
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8. I Hear Ya...
and no, there isn't much hope left. My guess is we'll attack Iran and Syria after some terrorist event is created/blamed on them and then 1/2 the people we come into contact with in America will be bloodthirsty Nazis.

The only hope remaining resides in people like us. I can't find anything to be hopeful about though, other than the normal (strange word these days) things in life like the people I love, my dog and cat, etc...

It seems our society overall has placed all their hopefulness in monetary gain. Sure is shallow ain't it?
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:29 AM
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11. I think we've been shallow for a long time
and naive to a point. We've been too content and now Neocons are making sure it's catching up with us.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:40 AM
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15. That's For Sure...
I'm seriously bothered by, (to the point of not sleeping) of constant war. I live about 35 miles outside of D.C. and think about it being a target every single day.

The Nazi-like military coronation of * on 1/20, with 10,000 police and anti-aircraft guns and military flyovers and constant praise of war is deeply disturbing to me, like I'm the only one who can see this is Nazi American being born.

Add to that, that this fake war crap will cost at least $100 billion a year to maintain which means my aging parents and me and every other citizen will lose future benefits like Social Security and even basic healthcare and I'm a seriously worried person and, for good reason.

Thanks for your post, it gave me a chance to vent!
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:44 AM
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16. Welcome!
I needed to vent too.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:54 AM
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19. So, you noticed that too, eh? n/t
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:30 AM
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12. Yeah, same here
I think I'm afraid to go to sleep because of what I may wake up to. It's very frustrating. I'm losing about three hours of sleep a night, and I absolutely should not do this. I have health concerns and am not doing myself any favors. The rumblings of the earth are certainly not helping, not to mention the extreme rain, snow, etc. all over the place. It almost feels as if the earth itself is rejecting *.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:36 AM
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14. I know, I know
But what really gets me running inside is the people (at least 51% of them) really think that this administration knows what's best. I can't believe the crap that he's trying to pull and IT'S O.K.!!! I'm not willing to bend over anymore.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:55 AM
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20. Yeah, if the damn cigs don't get me first!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:53 AM
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18. All of your posts touch on the very nerve-center of my feelings.
That is, everyone who has posted up to this point. I don't consider conspiracy theories, but when I see the undeniable parallels between America today and past regimes it is a very scary picture. And the fact that so many are blind, apathetic, or otherwise willfully ignorant does not help assuage a personal feeling that something is very wrong. The funny thing is this -- the right-wing fundamentalists have written books on everything that they want to do to change America. We all know that Bush is not only beholden by their ideology, but also seems to be bewitched and pushing them forward. Kind of scary when you consider that there was another group in history that wrote down its plans in books -- Mien Kampf -sp?- to name one -- and everyone ignored them or wrote them off as stupid or nuts. A lot of people here think Bush is foolish, but let me tell you this -- it was people underestimating Hitler and the Nazis that made it so easy for them to steal power legally and in plain site. I pray that we don't make the same mistake while knowingly fighting our own internal demons.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:59 AM
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21. Our internal demons are what's going to bite us in the ass
if we (as a nation) don't wake up.

Ever listen to Jackson Browne's "Made for America"? Some of those lyrics are to the point of being visual.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:12 AM
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22. I don't think America...
I don't think the majority of American's are even aware of the lies, and that is the worst part. We've never had a president more deserving of impeachment, and yet nothing is being done -- there is no public outcry as this Satan takes our country down the windy dark path. They have nothing but praise for him despite the fact that he is undoing all the good works of men like Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon... Very slowly he is chipping away at the foundation and soon the structure will topple lest we stop him and his elk.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:19 AM
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24. But who's got the balls to do it?
You're right about the lies that no one either, is aware of or don't believe. Like they say though, 9 times out of 10 a "war" president gets re-elected. It amazes me that 50% of these Americans still believe there are WMD's in Iraq. They choose to hear what they want, when they want. And let's not forget the "moral" values. Their thinking is so warped that "moral" means it's o.k. to kill 100K innocent civillians and 1350 U.S. soldiers for phantom weapons.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:21 AM
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27. I can only refer you to Thomas Jefferson.
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:23 AM by Stand and Fight
The answer lies in his most famous quotes. I dare not say them here for fear of our modern Alien and Sedition Act -- I dare not be called a non-patriot when it takes but the label of such to be branded a witch and burned up in the righteous indignation of the Neo-Conservative Ultra-Right-Wing.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:34 AM
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30. Not so!
The majority are with us. The first and biggest lie of the media is to convince everyone they are alone in their feelings, and should keep quiet about it.

A half a million people at least Marched and protested the Iraqi War in San Francisco, but the national media reported it as between twenty to thirty thousand.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:56 AM
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36. When was the last time you saw a Bush rally?
That wasn't orchestrated and financed by the RNC? Remember the Iraqi counterprotesters in DC? Where 20 people showed up?

I'm pretty sure they all voted for Bush. Honestly, I really wonder just how "popular" he is. I suspect that his popularity is a figment of the RW corporate media's imagination.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:10 AM
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37. That's a good point
I've heard (MoveOn; BushWatch, etc) that all that attended his rallies had to state their alligance, their reason for being there and then had to sign something stating what they already stated. I think there are more people out there that dislike him but he wanted his Rethugs to keep them silent. Maybe he's trying to recapture the "divine hero" effect from Sept '01 when he stood on the podium with the firefighter.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:41 AM
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33. Ha ha ha! When beginning to list "americans unaware of lies"...
You might as well start with the "opposition party" -- the Dems. I bet our elected Democratic representatives are sleeping blissfully through current events.

Q (of DU) had an interesting post, asking people in DU to declare if they were sheep or goats when it came to the struggle.

A lot of people read it as "Aw come on, I am like so darned progressive!!" or "Aw come on! I am a moderate."

In the opinion of yours truly -- what the hell does it matter WHERE you stand on the political spectrum, when we are confronting Fascists?

Pardon me -- but WHATEVER your position on the political scale -- IF you are an American, you ought to be disturbed by the hijacking of our government by extremist Fascists. It's NOT a left/right thing -- it's democracy vs authoritarianism.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:15 AM
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23. INAPPROPRIATE FORUM!
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:21 AM by chookie
You have NO BUSINESS posting this in General Discussion, when there is a DU Group "Haunted Insomniacs". (/sarcasm off HA HA HA)

You're up at 1:15 and you're worried about it? 1:15AM=9PM for we truly tormented folk, who don't start to worry until, hmm, 4:30 on good nights, and 6 on bad nights....

The good news: you are a normal, decent, moral human being. Good genes, good upbringing. Such folk instinctively are bugged by man-made and human disasters unfolding around them with increasing intensity. Some go on to be remembered as patriots and humanitarians.

If you were sleeping peacefully through all this shit -- THEN I'd be worried about your soul.

But here we are, in the "prozac nation." You will be expected to function cheerfully and effectively in all your social roles despite the very meaningful horror of it all. (Antidepressants, etc are for people with mental illness -- NOT for awareness of reality. Social change is what's called for -- NOT prescriptions.)

All that being said, you have my deepest sympathies for your sleep disorder. But, my dear, it's something we've inherited from our cave man days -- when we slept in caves with wolves howling all around us and ready to rip us to shreds and eat us -- and GUESS WHAT?? -- it's happening again, except it is not the noble wolf, but the ignoble fascist. You have simply inherited the ancient ability to sense great danger, especially by stealth. If you were a sheep, you'd be asleep by now....

As to the question, "Is there hope?" -- my answer: we all must CREATE hope. It's never a gift. Nobody hands you power -- you TAKE it.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:19 AM
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25. Noble Post!
But I am off to stare at my ceiling till my alarm clock goes off so that I can smile and laugh as if I'm okay with everything. However, I am adamantly convinced that there is a dark storm brewing, a foul maelstrom, that shall consume this nation less the people intercede as at whole. The politics of George W. Bush must be stopped at any and all costs -- no matter the price, no matter the sacrifice.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:20 AM
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26. You are not alone.... I have had sleepless nights too numerous to
count. I remember saying much the same thing you did: The more I read and watch about current events, the sicker and angrier I get.

There's something new each day to be revolted about. Unfortunately, the news and politics DID burn me out. I got desperately depressed. I had to take a few days/weeks off and stick my head in the sand. My nerves/my body couldn't take it anymore.

I'm not sure I can come back and return to my former pace even now. We shall see...... Good luck to ya :hi:

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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:30 AM
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28. If you want a serious answer...
On 9/11 I saw Bush give his speech in front of a line of schoolchildren, multi-ethnic and in order from tallest to smallest, and realized it was a staged pre-arranged photo-op.

A real president would have worked on normalizing the country as fast as possible, he would not have shut down the nation to insure a permanent mental state of fear and jingoism.

The war in Afghanistan was a mistake. The war on terror is and always has been a con designed to capitalize on our displaced sense of entitlement. Don't blame those who voted for Bush NOW... it was that first war and everyone who supported it that gave him all of the political power he wields today. There's a lot of waking up to do.

How bad is it really? The massive security at the inauguration is not crowd control with rubber bullets, and they are not there to protect against terrorists. He is and has always been five steps ahead of those who oppose him.

Is there hope? Of course there is. His little cabal has even conned the republican party, and their loyalties have been strained to the breaking point. In his rush to fire all opposing intelligence experts, assassins, and spies he didn't realize he was firing all the smart ones. A lot of pissed, smart spies with an abundance of free time on their hands. His foreign policies guarantee the number of countries Bush can travel to grows shorter by the day. And the facts compiled here on DU are not going away, they are being repeated louder and louder all the time.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:36 AM
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31. I hear ya LOUD AND CLEAR, Old Mouse
I can't wait for the day when he's impeached and one of his controlled media whores turns the tables on him and says "So, ya never made a mistake, huh?"

He's not one of the whores, but LONG LIVE KEITH OLBERMANN!
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:39 AM
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32. When I DO sleep
I dream of him on the stand, under oath... no one to whisper answers in his ear... the judge directing him to answer questions directly instead of long winded evasions... and then a long slow march to a courtyard.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:41 AM
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34. Can I pull the trigger? Please, please, pretty please?
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:49 AM
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35. If you think inauguration tickets are expensive!
Better make it clear that's a joke, son.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:32 AM
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29. Thx for all these posts
Now it's a little more than an hour later, I'm still not tired and I'm still scared shitless. But it's a good feeling to know that I'm NOT going crazy and that I don't need any drugs to make me feel normal. That'd be more $$ in *'s back pocket.
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