BBV? An Iowa caucus, a late-hour turnaround...

[MetaTrope]

And voting results compiled by a server in Atlanta, Georgia.

Which city was it that Bush and his handlers conducted a fundraiser in just this past week?

[Cocoa]

1. I saw it on C-span

none of the caucus goers looked liked they'd been hacked.

[bobbieinok]

2. if you're serious about this, contact the IA democratic party

My impression of them (after living in IA 20+ years) is that they're pretty sharp.

Maybe contact Story Co dem head quarters (Ia State U) or the democratic party in Ia City (U of Ia) or Cedar Falls (U of Northern Ia).

[cthrumatrix]

3. what are you saying?

[John_H]

4. Yes, Diebold produced hundreds of Dean-not-supporting androids

and dispersed them throughout elementary schools across the state of Iowa.

[Frederic Bastiat]

8. Stop it lol n/t

[SaddenedDem]

5. A very Familiar Pattern

Of course, when I posted this in GD this morning, I was called a paranoid whackjob by more than one poster.

However, anyone who has been in a state where these BBV machines have been used will find the behavior and outcome familiar and SUSPICIOUS for several reasons:

1. The IOWA caucus follows a familiar pattern. The press begins reporting a sudden, unexpected surge in polling of an opponent. A set up for the reasoning for a surprise win.

2. THIS election, for some unknown/unexplained reason, draws apolitical voters out of their homes in the most inclimate weather to cast an unexptected vote for the underdog in the race. Of course, when the numbers are actually reported, there are no increases in those "angry white male voters." But everyone will have moved on to something else, and the questions will remained unanswered.

Let's question why these votes had to be sent, via modem, to a computer in Atlanta. There is simply no logic behind that behavior. I guarantee there were servers available in IOWA.

[AP]

10. The instant tabluation was done by computer, however the raw data was

collected by hand, and anyone can compare the two.

[Zero Division]

6. Nope

Just ask the people like me who actually went to the Iowa caucuses. The results displayed by the media are really the way things turned out. It certainly would have been much closer had there not been the viability rule and opportunities to switch candidates, but the results still would've been similar. The moment I walked in the door I could see that John Kerry was going to get a surprising amount of support that could end up putting him in first place. When Gephardt's support crumbled and the other non-viables and undecided's fled to another candidate, very few of them went to Dean, bringing Edwards's support up to par (in the case of my precinct) or over Dean's and giving Kerry an even greater lead.

I saw it with my own eyes and have read the accounts of others who witnessed the surprising results themselves.

[sandnsea]

7. They elect human delegates

The human delegates have to show up at a state conference in March or April. It would be quite obvious at that point if there was something wrong with the numbers reported. The Dean campaign had observers at numerous caucuses and I'm sure they reported in the numbers as well. There's nothing underhanded with the caucus. It is what it is.

[morningglory]

9. I agree this looks like an honest farm-country "vote", but very

good idea to let everyone know we are aware of possibilities of fraud and we are watching.

[cthrumatrix]

11. we should demand an answer to data being shipped to Atlanta...

I am suspicious of voting ...period.

[JI7]

12. this was all done by public voting

not private ballots.

[cthrumatrix]

13. why tabulated outside the state...does anyone really know?

[cmf]

14. Well, I was watching a caucus on CSPAN

and when the captain called in the way his caucus voted, he got an error message saying that he had already called in. I thought that was pretty fishy.

[cthrumatrix]

15. did anyone else see that...is that on tape?