MSNBC: Boxer to Stand!

[davidinalameda]

no link--just got word of this

[Richard Steele]

1. No way!

I hope it's true....*crosses fingers*

Of course, it matters not one whit.

Hope it happens, tho!

[soleft]

2. It must have been the phone message I just left her

[mountebank]

16. No, no - it was mine!! n/t

[blue agave]

38. No, it was my e-mail !

.

[lycanthrope]

3. i'll bite

for what?

[cyberpj]

4. go to 2004 election thread - this was on msnbc tv news

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Just Me]

5. AW MAN!!!! FOR REAL!!!!!!

WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!

May the floodgates OOOOOOPPPEEEEENNNNNN!!!

[0007]

78. This is indeed great news!

Whoopee WOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Fucking "A" John

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[ElsewheresDaughter]

6. House Democrats to Contest Electoral Vote Count ...........

<snip>
"The House Democrats' chief hope of finding a supportive senator may be Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. Her spokesman, David Sandretti, said Tuesday that she has been asked to sign the complaint "and she is considering it.""

~~~~~~

WASHINGTON -- A handful of House Democrats plan a long-shot effort to snarl President Bush's formal re-election by preventing Congress from counting Ohio's pivotal votes when lawmakers tally the electoral vote on Thursday.

No one expects the action to undo Bush's victory. Instead, it seems likely to do little more than call attention to Election Day voting irregularities, a growing frustration for Democrats who blamed similar problems in Florida for Bush's 2000 defeat of Democrat Al Gore.

In a measure of the dispute's political delicacy, proponents are considered unlikely to find a senator who will co-sign the objection, which is required to force Congress to act on the challenge. Most Democrats are reluctant to launch a serious effort to undo the election, in which Bush outpolled Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., by more than 3 million votes nationally.

Even so, Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., has sent letters to senators seeking their support for his plan to object to the counting of Ohio's 20 electoral votes, which gave Bush his November victory over Kerry. Some Ohio voters have complained of Election Day fraud, citing a shortage of voting machines at precincts with minority voters, unusually long lines and computer problems.

more....http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0105-03.htm

[jswordy]

10. Nuff said

"No one expects the action to undo Bush's victory."

[prolesunited]

17. Even so, it will draw attention to patterns of voting irregularities

I think we should all be concerned, even if you are a Republican, that the U.S. has free and FAIR elections and that every vote counts and is counted.

[UpInArms]

7. perhaps the bravery of one would cause

all of the Dems to finally stand together -

now that would make people wake up and smell the coffee.

Me? I can only hope that Boxer does stand - but I won't count on it until it happens.

[DemoTex]

8. What will be her punishment?

The Bu$h regime will punish her, you know. If she stands, she will be the new profile in courage (as will be any and all that join her).

[Gregorian]

9. WE NEED A HERO. NOW.

Barbara Boxer is a hero. I left a message at her Sacramento office. I said that we need heroism more than ever, now. Some of us have been watching, and we know what has happened. Please stand up and contest the electoral vote.

[Ganja Ninja]

11. We need them all to stand.

No more wimping out. It may not change the result but if all the Democrats will stand and object it may give an opening to GOP members that are genuinely concerned with the direction of the country. At the very least it puts it on the historical record.

[Guaranteed]

73. Yes, we do. Hopefully this will start some kind of snowball effect.

[WillyT]

Damn...I Hope You're Correct !!! - EVERY Dem Senator Should Stand !!!

Deliver the rePukes one HELL of a message!!!

Bring it on...................

[Sleepless In NY]

14. WillyT Agree! Everyone one of them!

Please let the news about Boxer be right!

[Kber]

62. Every senator who believes in the constitution should stand up

regardless of party. But who am I kidding right?

[DaedelusNemo]

65. Absolutely! In numbers lies strength and limited liability

What have they got to protect? I mean seriously, what's being conserved? What is their big advantage they don't want to squander? The pubs ain't giving them crap, and they know it. Do they think they'll be any less demonized? They're going to have a hard time what with all the constant efforts to get the turbans off their heads - giving the republicans a hard time is basic survival and the only means of respite.

I can understand why each individual senator or representative would have to be very nervous about such a step. If they thought it would turn over the election, they could believe they might get away with it. But as it is, they know they are setting themselves as the target - as the example to all other democrats of what not to do and why. The more that stand together, the more diluted those attacks must necessarily be.

But if they all do it, they can only be punished as a party, and that will rouse americans' basic hatred of one-party dominance and strengthen the democrats in the ends.

And hey, wouldn't it be nice to get rid of that wimp label? What more dramatic way to send the message that we have a new Democratic Party on our hands now?

[MaineDem]

12. Oh please let this be true

Maybe one-by-one they all will!

Please please please...

[Barney Rocks]

13. Finally--a Senator

with some BALLS. No offense to the lady.

[Pathwalker]

19. Yeah - courage is so hard to spell!

[clintonlover]

15. i don't see that on msnbc site.....eom

[Javaman]

18. They still need a co-signer. Who on the hill will have a pair and do that?

I'm not holding my breath.

And I'll believe it when I see it if in fact Boxer actually does her job.

I'm so disillusioned at the whole mess.

[UCLA Dem]

20. Just sent her an email. Go Barbara!

[digitalhippie]

21. boxer to stand

I happened to tune to Limboob a few minutes ago( always like to know what my enemies are up to!!!)and he said that he had heard that boxer would stand, but it won't make any difference because the repugs control both the house and the Senate so they will just proceed as they have planned. MAN- I can't wait until we have control again and they have to stand by and just take it. I have emailed and faxed my ass off over the reocunt efforts in Ohio and I hope that we at least get the little victory of disrupting the process tomorrow and draw some attention to this issue-be well.

[proud patriot]

22. Are you sure , cause as soon as I know for sure

I'm starting my activism in support

" Boxer Speaks for me " Will go up as soon
as this can be confirmed .

[shanti]

53. i'm so proud

to call her my senator! barbara boxer!

[Spinzonner]

23. You Go Girl

Now she just has to keep off small, private planes

[bpilgrim]

41. women and people of color are doin a LOT of stepp'n up

as usual

peace

[seasat]

24. They'd all stand if they had any guts.

The Bush administration specifically targeted Democrats that worked with them during the last two elections. Once they get you compromising to their agenda, they then appeal to the voters to vote for the Repug because there is no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. Bill Nelson of my state has agreed with the Republicans on certain issues and they've already made it clear that they are gunning for him in 2006. Mary Landrieu proved in 2002 that the way to win against the Repugs is to challenge them, not compromise. All the Democratic Senators need to join with Boxer.

[Name removed]

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[mzmolly]

29. WOW! Great news!

[maddezmom]

37. welcome to DU second coming

[janx]

44. That's funny...You said just the opposite in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Mistress Quickly]

51. That's odd...

[janx]

55. I've never seen anything like it!

Have you?

[Mistress Quickly]

56. And no reply yet from Second Coming, huh?

on edit:

Now I know why no reply:

[janx]

60. Imagine that!

And look at this!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1314653/posts

I posted a thread before about some inside information that national review had that boxer MIGHT contest the election.. But now...

I was watching MSNBC and they said that Barbra Boxer will stand and contest the results and join Conyers.

Its all over DU if you want to check out there forums (if you can).

AND--Look at this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1314653/posts?...

To: Next_Time_NJ
Yes, infiltrators are keeping them hopping at DU today! Some get on and post BOXER IS YES, others get on and say BOXER IS NO!

Actually, Boxer's office keeps telling ANYBODY that bothers to call that they are just listening to their constituents and have not made up their mind.

Of course the conspiracy nuts over at DU are going nuts about this just means a YES or a NO, and even Kerry being out of the country is part of the YES conpiracy! They are truly nuts over there!



59 posted on 01/05/2005 11:50:40 AM PST by smag499

Alas, poor Smag...

[DaedelusNemo]

64. That's hilarious... it's clear who's truly nuts /nt

[Mistress Quickly]

68. Good catch!!

[slutticus]

77. LOL! Anyone get the idea that more freeps read DU than DUers?

These trolls really need a life. But FR really is shitty to navigate...I guess I don't blame them.

[Kadie]

26. Wow!

Alright Boxer!

[David Zephyr]

27. The Other 99 Senators? I Wish They All Could Be California Girls!

[WillyT]

35. ROFLMAO !!!

Perfect!!!

[Emboldened Chimp]

28. She's a good candidate for this...

After easily winning another 6 years in November, she'll have time to recoup from the political fallout that will surely follow.

[MADem]

59. BINGO!!!!

You can't expect anyone who doesn't have that cushion to be the first to leap to their feet--it would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face. And if her floor speech hits the right notes, she could in fact earn some of that there political capital that weecowboy is so pleased as punch to bring up all the time.

[rawstory]

30. Boxer's office statement to be released on RAW STORY

Currently, they won't confirm this. But indiciations are that she will, though I still find it hard to believe.

[Lorien]

31. So the only Big Brass Ones belong to a woman?

sweet!

[cally]

32. Please keep calling her to support this

She's a hero. I'm so proud that she's my Senator. I just called. I couldn't get through to the DC or SF number so I called the inland empire number. The staffer seemed surprised I was calling in support. I admit, then I choked up. Thank you Senator Boxer. I will actually attend a few of your fundraisers you keep asking me to attend.

[msanthrope]

33. If she does this, she's got my checkbook and my attention.. n/t

[davidinalameda]

34. just sent this email

I have heard that you are going to be signing on to Representative Conyer's plan to object to the counting of Ohio's electoral votes.

Thank you for this. I am very proud to be represented by such as courageous senator as yourself.

David Wickham
Alameda, CA

[rawstory]

36. BOXER'S OFFICE WON'T CONFIRM CLAIM

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=530

The San Francisco office of Senator Barbara Boxer denied claims that a final decision had been made on whether she would challenge the electoral college result on

the floor of the Senate Thursday. Boxer’s Washington office has not returned RAW STORY calls for comment over the last several days.

Asked to confirm or deny reports that Sen. Boxer had made a decision to challenge, a spokesman said, “The Senator has made no public statment on that, we are still taking down opinions and I can forward them to the senator.”

MSNBC News reported Wednesday afternoon that Boxer was likely to challenge. Rush Limbaugh also made a similar comment on his radio program.

A source on Capitol Hill told RAW STORY that a challenge from Boxer was expected, but would not elaborate.

[bpilgrim]

42. damn! what's her NUMBER?

now i know why this has been moved

peace

[lebkuchen]

45. [phone]

She's getting lots of calls. I got a busy signal at first, and then was put on hold. Did get through, however. Just passed on my support should she decide to "stand."

[Moderator]

39. moving to GD Politics

[bpilgrim]

40. and this isn't LBN

peace

[GOPBasher]

43. Wahhhhhhhhhh hahahahaha!!!!!

I can't believe this! I'm jumping out of my seat!

[jswordy]

47. Before you give yourself an injury, read from...

this thread on DU...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Kerry wimps out of it all.

I'm telling you, the man does not really want to be prez. What a limp candidate, indeed.

I just wish folks would give up on this giant distraction and get ready for the February chairmanship election and then the midterms...the next places anything amounting to real change could happen.

[GOPBasher]

50. I know this won't change anything, but my only goal here is this:

I just want the country to here about electronic voting and how it can subvert democracy. I don't expect these election results to change. I just want the system to change by 2006. I want Dems to do what they should've been doing since 2000. We need to fix the electronic voting problem, and that starts with making sure the American people know the problems that exist. I'm telling you, outside of this discussion board, I don't know ANYONE who knows a single thing about e-voting or its potential for fraud.

[jswordy]

54. A noble endeavor, but unfortunately...

...I think the country has heard about that, and frankly doesn't believe it.

Further, seeing as how many states and localities are just now making decisions to get into electronic voting, the situation will actually be worse for 2006...at least for those of us who don't favor that system.

[GOPBasher]

61. That's the point.

If people see more evidence, they can start to learn about it. I think our goal over the next year is to shout this from the rooftops and show as much evidence as we can. Then more people will hear about, more people will believe it, and we might hit a critical mass of people.

[FrenchieCat]

46. I am so proud of my Senator!

and I love my Representative too!! Barbara Lee!

That's what I mean....when others are sitting, courage is for those who stand!

John Kerry in the Middle East doing Photo Ops.....how convenient! That way it's not so obvious that he really is not standing....

[wheresthemind]

69. oh shut it...

Kerry is not holding any press events while he is over there...

He is back to work. He traveled a lot before he was the canidate for president.

[FrenchieCat]

71. Why?

I don't have the right to speak my mind here?

Too bad that Kerry's "work" took him out of the country when we needed him right here at home. I guess that him being "respected in the world" was more important than our Democracy being "safer at home".

[Warren DeMontague]

76. I Second That Emotion.

I wish Kerry would strap on a pair. His magical vanishing act since the election has been about as inspiring as a ten hour Celine Dion medley. Fat lot of good he's proven to be, and I was one of the folks rooting for the guy REAL early on.

[justsomegirl]

48. First Woman President?

I'll tell you what, if she indeed stands up, I'll be among the first to volunteer for her Presidential campaign.

[genius]

49. Her office says she's still undecided.

[jswordy]

57. SCENARIO

Boxer decides to stand, some of her staff knows it. They leak it to MSNBC. Kerry's folks contact her staff, or Kerry himself calls her, to make sure she knows he does not have a spine to stand up on this and that she'd be sticking her neck out for a lost cause as far as getting any backing from him.

Oops. She didn't suspect he'd be so weak. Suddenly, Boxer's staff goes from prepping a news release to, "Gee, we're not sure what she'll do."

Good choice, Barbara. No use risking your career and bearing the backlash for a man who won't stand up for the voters unless it is clear he himself would gain by it!

Sigh...that's our man Kerry. RIP, I say, you'll never be the nominee again.

[Not_Giving_Up]

52. MSNBC's website has nothing on this

[ally_sc]

58. this will help

and hopefully it will stall the inaugeration events..kid rock ugh. have you heard some of his crude and outlandish lyrics?...i guess everyone has a preference but that wouldn't be mine.

[Beaverhausen]

63. Boxer's contact info from her website

Washington D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
[phone]

Sacramento
501 I Street, Suite 7-600
Sacramento, CA 95814
[phone]
[phone] fax

San Francisco
1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240
San Francisco, CA 94111
[phone]
[phone] fax

Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
[phone]
[phone] fax

Fresno
1130 O Street, Suite 2450
Fresno, CA 93721
[phone]
[phone] fax

San Diego
600 B Street, Suite 2240
San Diego, CA 92101
[phone]
[phone] fax

Inland Empire
201 North E Street, Suite 210
San Bernardino, CA 92401
[phone]
[phone] fax

[orleans]

66. CONYERS JUST SAID THEY HAVE A SENATOR

on air america, on randi's show
randi asked him if he thinks they'll have a senator
and he said: "oh yeah"
SO WE GOT ONE!!!
LET'S GET TWO!!!
he said the phone lines were all lit up all over the congress and he wasn't able to get ahold of harry reid
SO KEEP THOSE CALLS COMING
AND THOSE EMAILS!!!
TO ALL THE DEM SENATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[buddhamama]

67. thanks, orleans

I didn't tune in to randi's show today.

Time to make some MORE phone calls

[Buns_of_Fire]

70. I just e-mailed Sen. Boxer

I know I'm not a constituent (I live about as far from California as you can get and still be in the lower 48), but I figured that gestures of support from around the country certainly couldn't hurt...

(And no, I didn't ruminate on the fact that most of the politicians with brass ones tend to be women!)

[biglake]

72. I CALL MY SENATORS LEVIN AND STABENOW TO STAND NOW

AND WHY DOESN'T SENATOR EDWARDS STAND NOW....AND SENATOR KENNEDY....AND SENATOR LEAHY AND SENATOR DURBIN.,,,,,,AND SENATOR BYRD. I LOVE SENATOR BOXER. SHE IS BRAVE. SHE IS ALWAYS A TRUTHTELLER......STAND FOR US NOW. THE GONZALEZ MESS,,,NOT AS IMPORTANT AS OUR ELECTIVE PROCESS NOW....JUST TEMPORARY COVER. IF YOU CAN'T STAND NOW, THEN YOU MAY NEVER AGAIN HAVE OUR FAITH IN THIS SO CALLED DEMOCRACY. HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU ALLOW SUCH INDIGNITY TO OUR PROUD HARDWORKING PEOPLE? CHALLENGE THIS ELECTION.

CALL THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM.

[hellbound-liberal]

74. This may make me reconsider leaving the Democratic Party

but I doubt it. I am simply fed up with the spineless "leadership" of the party and I am no longer willing to fight for someone who will not fight for me.

[Warren DeMontague]

75. Damn it feels good to be a... Californian.

RIGHT ON BB!

[knight_of_the_star]

80. Huzzah!

So great to be a Californian!

I'm proud to be Californian
Where at least I know I'm free!
And of the men and women who lived and died
To give that right to me!

[moondust]

79. Fool me once...

This challenge should have happened four years ago. If Congress had straightened out the electoral mess in the past four years it probably wouldn't be happening now. It's their own fault. No whiners.