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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:52 PM
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Poll question: Dick Durbin or Barack Obama
Which Senator from Illinois do you like better?
Even though Barack hasn't started yet I would say that they will both be two of the best people in the Senate.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:54 PM
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1. Durbin by miles upon miles and miles!!!
Obama has made some discouraging remarks.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:55 PM
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2. BUt the comparison is unfair for Barak in a way
because I feel like Durbin is an old friend.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:03 PM
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3. True, I want to see how Obama does.
Durbin is reliable. Obama got a lot of national attention with his speech at the convention but I want to see if his bite is as good as his bark. Maybe I should have divided the poll up between people who are and or not from Illinois.
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blackangrydem Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:07 PM
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4. Obama doesn't even know where the men's room is yet,
to quote the Senator-elect himself.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:19 PM
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5. I would have voted for Durbin but for some reason I got an "error" message
I don't know whether Obama will be a courage Senator or one who tries to fit in yet.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:27 PM
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Too early to tell
Give Obama some time.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:28 PM
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8. agree
but I like both from what I know a lot. Durbin's office was kind enough to let me apply but I got turned down because of my age, I am trying now ith Congressman Dingell of Michigan, *Fingers crossed* please, oh please.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:29 PM
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12. What did you apply for?
If I were to apply for an internship, his office would be one of my first choices, along with Jon Corzine, Russ Feingold, or Barbara Boxer. I'd prefer not to apply for a job with either of the senators from my state, Mary Landrieu or Puke David Vitter.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:32 PM
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16. damn I forgot about Boxer and Corzine and Feingold
Oh I started out by applying for Kennedy, couldnt get in there because someone from another class got it. Then I tried Durbin but because I am a HS student, I couldn't get it but they accepted an application, I then tried Sarbanes, Schumer, Kerry, but they were filled up or prefered people from their home states. I actually met Mary Landrieu on a class field trip, she was all right but she's way too moderate for me. So now, I am trying to get a job with John Dingell, the most senior member of congress, who has been there since the 50's, he's good, a good new deal type dem who is actually quite liberal on social issues, liberal economically.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:41 PM
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19. Well I'm gonna wait for college to apply for an internship...
If I fail to get one with any of my favorite senators I might try Dennis Kucinich. I've met Landrieu twice, once on the class trip to DC, once at a Kerry fundraiser here in New Orleans. Personally I don't think that she's a bad senator or anything, but I certainly don't think of her as a person of any great ability.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:43 PM
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20. I didnt know you were in HS
what year? She's all right but she's not my favorite, I did appreciate her doing good on Hannity and Colmes though. She took a while to meet with us but she was friendly, but a lot of people in my class didn't really like her.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:46 PM
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21. Awesome!
Lots of luck Kleeb! :thumbsup:
That is PERFECT for you!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:51 PM
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22. Thanks
Ive had a tough time thus far though, everyone else in my class has been placed. There are some great things you get from living around here, and that class is one of them. Dingell has so much history in congress, I was at his homepage the other day and I saw pictures of him with Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, all sorts of dems through out the last half century. He's been in congress since before my mom was even born, thats how long he's been there. He also was John Conyers boss for a long time when Conyers was a congressional aide.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:51 AM
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35. Did you try either of the senators
from my state? Levin and Stabenaw are two of the best in the senate.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:27 PM
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6. .
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 04:27 PM by fujiyama
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:28 PM
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7. Dick Durbin is one of the senators voting against the war.
Until Obama shows a similar act of courage and integrity, ha cannot compare (I hope he will). Just pretty speeches aren't enough.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:22 PM
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9. One of only two Democrats up for re-election that year
who voted against the war. The other was Paul Wellstone. Maybe Durbin has some good reasons he doesn't talk about running for President like Wellstone did.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:24 PM
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10. Didn't Wellstone withdraw his name from consideration after finding out
he had MS. I think he would have made a solid candidiate.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:30 PM
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14. Yes in 2000
I heard he was considering running in 2004. I wish he had.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:34 PM
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18. he would have had my support
The guy was so great in so many ways.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:27 PM
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11. Durbin could run in the future
Remember he only has 8 years in the Senate so far (although I think he may have had more in the House).
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:29 PM
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13. first elected to the house in 1982
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:31 PM
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15. Wow. are you from Illinois or what?
I used to be lucky enough to live in his district when he was in Congress. He's a great guy.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 05:33 PM
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17. No I am from Virginia
I get these oppertunties because I live so near DC and am in a political science course. He is a great guy, one of our finest in the senate I think.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:08 PM
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23. I'm surprised Durbin is winning
I thought Obama was more well known nationally after his convention speech. I guess DU is a well informed crowd.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:11 PM
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24. Obama has upset some people with stuff he's said
apparently, if you recall pre convention, he called Bush sincere and people got on his ass for it. Now, I like both of them and as a Virginian who has two bad senators, I'd be happy to have either.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:12 PM
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25. Durbin ROCKS! He's a real Liberal. I love Obama too, but
I can't say I like him more than Durbin until I see how he legislates/votes.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:13 PM
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26. Right. Durbin has a long record
and he very rarely takes a vote I disagree with.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:17 PM
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27. Even cooler is the fact that Durbin may be party leader someday
in the senate. Having him as party whip is a great start.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:18 PM
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28. Damn right. He just moved up right?
To the position Reid was in. I would have liked Durbin instead of Reid but Reid will do for now.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:20 PM
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29. Yeah I prefer Durbin to Reid too but
I think Reid may retire in a few years.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:26 PM
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30. That's right and then Durbin can just slide right into the leader's
chair. He will definitely be the Majority/Minority leader someday. Yay! I LOVE Durbin! He answers every one of my emails by snail mail and often he send me email responses that he writes himself. He's a pro-active Senator. I just adore him!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 06:31 PM
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31. I really wanted to work for him
but I am too young for that job but hey, the fact that his office wanted me to send an application in it is good enough and my mom's first ex is related to him, ok not really, thats what my grandma thinks but in jest.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:07 PM
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32. Accepting your application is a good start!
Keep sending one in every year and eventually you will be old enough! :7
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 07:09 PM
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33. oh next year I could
I think, because though I won't be going to a four year school, I'll be going to a community college that is considered one of the if not hte best in the nation.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:30 PM
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34. I did an internship for Durbin
when I was attending a community college. That was in his district the first year he ran for US Senate while he was still a Congressman. So it can be done. Good luck.
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