Jeb Bush is going to run in 2008

[GingerSnaps]

We need to start nwatch up and spell it coffeeow! The rethugs have plans which they are go9ng
We have to work together in order to defend our rights and get the fraudulent election overturned. We also have to make sure the we have a paper trail/receipt after we vote.

I heard on cpan this morning that the rethugs are getting Jeb Bush ready for the 2008 Presidential run. The one important issue is that they are going to run Jeb Bush in 2008 and instill him into office by the way of the BBV system. We must act now because 4 years from now we will be watching the fraud steal office again. :hug:

[robbedvoter]

1. He is as good as there. Dems are becoming GOP-ers and everyone

is wondering "why we lost". It's done.

[Goldeneye]

2. Let's start calling him Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich

Or some corruption of it like "Vik" because he is the Government-backed candidate like in Ukraine.

I knew Jeb was going to be the next Boy king. Why change the term limit when you can hand it over to the next Mafia boss.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. If you want to bring down Jeb Bush, start with his foundation.

Chip away. Find those organizations/private families in each Republican county who financially and politically support him, and then look for graft. You won't have to look hard, if you really try.

[tsuki]

11. Look into his business interests in Miami-Dade, pre-governor.

[The Backlash Cometh]

43. There is so much to uncover, I just can't see how anyone can

miss it. In Florida, each county and even city is controlled by someone who has strong roots to the area and is usually involved in real estate in one way or other. They just don't stick to the one thing, they grow tentacles into government office and/or the courts. If you want to uncover the graft, take a look at the donation lists over the last two elections, pick out the names that turn up twice, and do legal research on those names.

And for extra bonus points, go to the League of Cities and pull all the available information on pay-outs for lawsuits for the municipalities. You'll need to take someone with a big name, because they'll claim they're a private entity and don't have to honor public records requests, but they do.

[blackangrydem]

4. If we really think it's going to be Jeb

then we should figure out now which democrat is best suited to face him in the general election.

A Floridian? A Southener?
Military backround?
A Woman?
A Liberal? Conservative?

Get those focus groups focusing!

[TheDebbieDee]

27. As long as those voting machines that don't print rec'pts...

are in use in 28 states, it doesn't matter who we pick to run against him.

As long as the MSM can tear our candidate apart with lies and half truths and we don't have an outlet with which to broadcast the truth, it doesn't matter who we pick to run against him.

Let's not put the cart before the horse. First things first!

[trayfoot]

40. Why?

[VTdem]

5. Isn't it well known that

Jeb Bush has had multiple affairs while in office?

If he ran I think we would have to be ruthless and give him the Clinton treatment that they gave to us.

[JCMach1]

6. All buried... JEBtm will be the Repug nominee

:(

[FrenchieCat]

7. His brother is a dunce....

who snorted cocaine and was an alcoholic till he was 40 years old...had a couple of DUI, and every business venture that he touched turned into shit.

No, I don't think that him having ANY scandal in his background will scar or smear him.

Remember that the Media Presstitutes work for the Corporations beholden to the Bush Clan and the Republican party.

If he runs.....only a kickass that takes no prisoners but maintains a smile can win.

[VTdem]

9. Very good point

[pbartch]

26. BRING OUT THE "SEX" FACTOR.

If there is enough information about Jeb Bush and Sexual Affairs.....the Conservative Evangelicals will hate him. Well not hate cuz they don't "hate"

My sister and bro in law and the Baptists here on the West Coast would never go for that improper......SINFUL stuff.

[fortyfeetunder]

51. The (unsubstantiated) story heard was

he had his "freak of the week"

[cali]

8. Let them put up Jeb

He doesn't stand a chance, no matter how rigged it is. Americans won't vote for another bushco. By the time 2008 rolls around, this country will be in such a hideous mess that there's no way a rethug will win, let alone a bush.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Well that would be the Conventional Wisdom...

That America won't vote for another Bushco.

But then isn't this the same America that wasn't going to give this Bush the re-election? Didn't all of the endless polls show Bush Jr. with an historical deficit when it came to his approval rating and said that this boded very badly for him? Weren't all of the indicators showing that he wasn't going to win this one including the exit polls?

Plus the country is in a mess now....that didn't seem to stop voters. In another four years, we will be so immune to Bush's f*ck ups....that many won't see the mess that is there.

If a President can allow the worst tragedy to occur on our shores and end up benefiting from it, who knows how stupid Americans are going to.

[cali]

17. No.

I knew bush was going to win. And any President who was in office on Sept 11 would have benefitted from the longing of Americans to rally behind the most obvious symbol of the country. In addition, Americans are not given to supporting dynasties. As far as the mess goes, it's going to be much, much worse by 2008.

[robbedvoter]

23. Then you were wrong, because he lost.

[cali]

24. Groan

Sorry, I believe we lost. I can't prove my point of view. You can't prove yours. End of story.

[GingerSnaps]

31. We don't have to vote anymore

The good thing about the US is that we have the convenience of having someone else do it for us :D

[Bouncy Ball]

19. If this bush got in twice

via election fraud, what's to stop Jeb from getting in twice via election fraud?

It won't matter what a mess things are, the media will just declare it a miracle or some shit.

[T Bone]

47. And just how will the sheeple know the country is a hideous mess

They are all drinking the lool aid and watching Faux, indeed, how will they ever know? They won't go outside the matrix.

[Cuban_Liberal]

10. Jeb stated publicly that he wn't run in 2008

It was on CNN just prior to 11/2. He said he has no interest whatsoever in being POTUS.

[FrenchieCat]

12. I know what Jeb Bush Said....

But it's not like I believe what any Bush says.

[Cuban_Liberal]

15. Ehhh..

In general, I take what people say at face value, unless and until I have solid evdence to the contrary. Comes from being a cop, I guess...

:shrug:

[tkmorris]

42. You do what?

You take what Jeb Bush says at face value?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, stop it! Yer killin me here!!

[GingerSnaps]

59. Have you ever run into a person that believes their own lies?

Do you see any of the same qualities in * as you do with someone like that? Jeb looks like he is a tiny bit brighter then his brother. He doesn't have the same evil smile/smirk. He looks like able which is more frightening than anything else.

My Sister kept commenting on why didn't they run the brother with the brains. Wait a second I had a thought here. Neil Bush has a ton of shady businesses wouldn't he be the one with the brains. I mean you know how the mob has one person that isn't as dumb as the others and they call him the brains because he is the better scammer. That would have to be Neil :scared:

I have a dream OK here it goes. The UN has a party for the Bush crime clan and all of their associates. They send them out invitations to the party and they have these pretty party favors that look like this. :D

[Bouncy Ball]

21. Uh, his older brother

said the VERY SAME THING in 1999. Exactly. Point blank "I have no interest in running" George W. Bush, early 1999. I remember it clearly.

That is their MO. Act all uninterested, then throw your hat in the ring.

Anything a bush says, assume the opposite. Haven't we all learned that by now?

[hatrack]

30. Yeah, whatever

A member of the Bush family would never, NEVER lie about ANYTHING!!!!

[GingerSnaps]

36. I have to find the link to the article

They said that behind the scenes that they are priming Jeb for a run and that if he said that he was going to run right now it would cause a "revolution" is so many words. The article mentioned that "Us" the democrats would be more complacent about this election if we didn't know in advance that Jeb was being primed for the 2008 run. Therefore when we do find out about Jeb running it will be too late to fight because laws will be passed and diebold will still be around.

We must do something about the electronic voting and the media or we are screwed. We can't wait anymore either. :hug:

[TSIAS]

13. Jeb had his chance 10 years ago

Had he beaten Lawton Chiles for Governor in 1994, I think he, not George, would have been the 2000 GOP nominee.

I really don't expect him to run in '08.

[bullimiami]

16. if not jeb then some other gangster will be installed

we are so screwed if we dont get this voting system fixed.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. FUCK HIM

AND FUCK ALL BUSHES. NO more bushes EVER!!! I'll be DAMNED if my child will have to grow up under four to eight more years of fucking immoral bastard ass bushes.

[Cuban_Liberal]

20. Tell us how you really feel

:hug: ;)

[donhakman]

22. home sweet home

[GingerSnaps]

32. The kids of the next generation

Will be growing up under George P. :puke: That is why we have to start a movement right now in order to fight back.

[Bouncy Ball]

33. Oh Gad.

And they'll push George P. in by totally pandering to the Hispanics in addition to voter fraud.

Asshats, every last one of them.

[GingerSnaps]

38. Do you remember when Bush Sr

Called his grandkids his little brown grandkids? That sticks in my mind and it rubbed me the wrong way because I don't think that I have ever heard someone call his family by a color.

[catbert836]

25. Great. So we can have 8 years of Jeb, then 8 years of Neil, then

8 years of Melvin. By this time, (2032) Barbara and The Other One will be ready to run, so we can the Bush family as presidents until the world comes to an end.

[Bouncy Ball]

34. Ha!

Neil and Marvin? NEVAH.

[catbert836]

53. I wouldn't be so sure.

You can never tell with these people.

[lessthanjake]

28. Psht he wont win

I have a lot of friends who are republicans (i am steadily converting them though) that would NOT vote for jeb.

ANd if he is behind by a lot in polls and exit polls (which he would be) then cheating is impossible.

[GingerSnaps]

29. Never type when you are half asleep

What I wanted to say is that we need to Wake Up and Smell the Coffee. I heard that the rethugs are going to run Jeb Bush and that Jeb is pretending that he is not going to run but he will change his mind right before primaries. We cannot let the largest crime family in history instill another crooked half wit family member.

Let's start the movement now or we will be screwed and so will every generation after us.

[Virginian]

52. Which one was it ...

Marvin, Jeb or Neil that didn't recognize that a woman knocking on his hotel door and asking for sex was a prostitute?
I get those Bush boys all mixed up.

Which one was it involved in a scandal that caused a Savings and Loan to go belly up? I get those Bush boys all mixed up.

Which one was it that was AWOL from the National Guard? I get those Bush boys all mixed up.

Which one was it that snorted cocaine and beat his wife? I get those Bush boys all mixed up.

They all have a past. Magnify it. Don't let it disappear like it did with Dubya.

[GingerSnaps]

60. The Bush boys

If you put all three of their IQ's together you still wouldn't come out with a high IQ :D

It was a maid knocking at the door :evilgrin:

[Darth_Kitten]

35. So it's really not about the person......

they are bleeping puppets for crying out loud!!! :mad:

[Dinger]

37. Yes, Presidential Campaigns Are Now Four-Years Long Or More

Maybe his running mate will be Cruella? Maybe they'll "come out" by then, a-la Prince Charles and Camilla (The rotweiller)

[Kat45]

39. That's been the plan all along.

8 years of shrub, followed by another 8 years of jeb--not sure what comes next. :puke:

[GingerSnaps]

41. The Bush twins President & Vice President

:puke:

[brook]

44. Ya know...

I am so fed up with Bushes, all I have to say to pudgie is "Don't even think about it." He ought to stop wile he's ahead. Wonder if he's smart enough?

[journalist3072]

45. Jeb

This really warms my heart. I am absolutely THRILLED by the prospect of having a Republican Presidential candidate who made 12th grade optional in his home state.

[Minstrel Boy]

46. GHW Bush 1988: "I've unleashed the Bush family on America."

"In the Dukakis debate in 1988 Bush put it like a last comment while he's grinning and he said, 'I've unleashed the Bush family on America.' That has always been my image of this family, steeped in corruption, crime, and fascism that has taken over machinery of the country."

- John Judge, November 18, 2000

[ailsagirl]

48. I heard that Tom Ridge is going to run for President in 2008

I'm not sure where-- on Air America?? Great. What a crop of winners the repugs will have to choose from. Let's see, so far we have: Arnie, Ridge, and now Jeb. Hell, why not Tom DeLay while they're at it??

[Virginian]

49. What are you going to do with your receipt?

I understand the concept of verified voting, where there is a paper trail that can be audited, but if you get a receipt, what are you going to do with it?

If there is an audit, is everyone going to come back to the precinct and turn in their receipt? My precinct is an elementary school. I wonder what the kids would do with all of those little pieces of paper.

Is everyone who voted going to go to the county electoral board and turn in their receipt for the recount? I really don't think very many voters would do that, especially those who voted for the current winner who could lose in a recount.

The only way a paper trail would work is if it stayed at the polling place in a locked container and was turned over to the electoral board without ever being removed from that locked conainer.

So how about that locked container doing a second count. If the receipt were printed so that it could be read by humans and by an optical scanner. The scanner would store the receipts the way the punch cards are stored by that system.

After the polls close, the voting machine total would be compared with the scanner total.

During the month after the election, several precincts would be randomly selected for a hand recount to verify the validity of the two types of machines.

The two types of machines cannot be purchased from the same manufacturer.

I posted this idea before the election. I got several suggestions. Most were to use pencil and paper. Those people have never worked an election. The most creative suggestion was from a man living in Scotland who had an idea to weigh the vote.

[Angry Girl]

50. You need to watch out for Hagel too

Ex-chairman of ESS, became Senator with votes counted on ESS machines, was caught lying to the Senate Ethics Committee about his current ownership of ESS....

See points 5, 6, and 7 of the list:

http://nightweed.com/usavotefacts.html

[GingerSnaps]

54. I like your web blog

:kick:

[Angry Girl]

56. thanks!

[uncertainty1999]

55. Will Jeb's daughter follow the Bush twins onto the campaign trail ... ?

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/10/17/noelle.bush/

[GingerSnaps]

58. Nicole can be in charge of the FDA

:D

[napi21]

57. I don't think he stands a chance!

Half of America is tired of shrub already. There's no way he, and the family name is going to be able to hold onto power after another 4 years!

I'm much more concerned aobut Santorum, Frist, and the others like them.

[GingerSnaps]

64. We don't have to vote

The corporate owned media will say that it's a horse race and then they will say that it's neck and neck and the country is divided and then the machines will vote for us. Us Amerkuns like everything made easy and that's as easy as you can get it :D

[Poppyseedman]

61. Jeb won't run

I'm from Florida and Jeb is very well liked as a whole, but he is not the ideal candidate to run for President. Hard to believe he's the chimps brother.

Way too many negatives to run a national campaign.

His wife is from Columbia, speaks relatively poor English. That won't fly in the red states. Most red Americans want their first lady to be able to speak better than the hired help they get to do the jobs they turn their noses up at.

His kid was busted for drugs, well published, she went to rehab. Not real sure it took. Rush idiots may give her a pass.

Plus, 8 years of Bush crime machine and asking for 4 more!!! By then they will have consolidated their power base and fade to the background to run things

[fortyfeetunder]

62. Sounds like the perfect American Family!!!

Welcome Poppyseedman

Don't underestimate the ability for Jeb to rehab his family as presidential material. So far they sound like the perfect American Family?

The only way to keep him out as a contender is strapping on a scandal on Jeb that will make him practically unelectable. I hope the good folks in Florida can take care of that.

[Poppyseedman]

63. Thanks for the welcome mat

I watch Jeb pretty close. He's a good politician.

It's going to be hard to nail him with something. He handled his daughter drug problem very well, she actually spent time in jail for contempt, instead of pulling the family strings and making it easy for her.

My guess he doesn't have the "want" to be President.

His wife is a big problem, as First Lady of Florida, you never see her.

I bet 8 of 10 people if asked who is the first lady of Florida they couldn't tell you.

That's being Governor of 5 years!!!

[Telly Savalas]

66. Furthermore...

doesn't he come across as less of a "man of the people" than his brother...y'know 'cause he doesn't have that fake Texas cowboy accent?

Wouldn't this make it harder for him to win the crucial "peeing Calvin sticker" vote?

[GOPBasher]

65. "Jeb Bush is going to run in 2008" -- Good! I want a right winger to run

By then, shit will be so bad that there's no way they can win a fair election (stress the word "FAIR"). But if they nominate a moderate like McCain, I'm sure they can win. Personally, I'd love it if Tom Delay ran and won the nomination. The farther right, the bigger landslide for us -- assuming a fair election.

[UnapologeticLiberal]

67. I thought Jeb said he was not running

Has he changed his mind? If so, that is probably a good thing...I am less scared of him than I am of Rudy Guiliani or Schwartzenegger if they change the constitution, and the more Republicans running, the better, because it will take longer before they can unite around a nominee, and there will be more bad blood in the party.