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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:10 PM
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Democrats' Choice: Dig in or Work With GOP (duh!)
WASHINGTON - Outpolled, outmaneuvered and out of power, Democrats are suffering an identity crisis.

They could dig in for the long haul as an opposition party similar to many European semi-permanent parliamentary models, and espouse popular positions without worrying about governance. Or they could try to reach across party lines in hopes of achieving accommodation with the Republicans for the public good.

There are pluses and minuses to each approach, and finding a happy medium will be difficult.

"Once they get out of the fetal position, which is what they're in right now, the Democrats in Congress are really going to have start catching the pitches that are thrown by the president," said Ross Baker, a political science professor at Rutgers University.

<SNIP>

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/2004...
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:11 PM
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1. how many times must a man...
reach out

only to come back without a hand
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:12 PM
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2. Getting out of the fetal position...
Is the first step. We need leadership. Step up, pretenders to the throne. Let's see what you got.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:15 PM
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3. work with the pukes
NO WAY! First they screw you and then they expect you to cover the cost of the Vaseline
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:16 PM
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4. This article
made me throw up in my mouth.
The president is not "throwing pitches" he's throwing javelins.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:20 PM
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6. Which makes the Democrats' disarray
all the more appalling.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:18 PM
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5. Filibuster!!!
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:23 PM
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7. Easy choice
1)Filibuster virtually everything in the Senate

2)Introduce embarrasing amendments they will vote down in the House and then use those votes against them in 06 and 08.

3)Clog the Committees

4)Use floor debates constructively

5)Go to the People to defeat unpopular bills

6)Don't show up and make them ALL show up to get a quorum.

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:27 PM
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8. Those are wonderful suggestions...
We should make sure they al know that's what we need them to do.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:43 PM
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9. Get up, stand up, stand up for your right
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

- Bob Marley & Peter Tosh
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:55 PM
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10. Fetal position? Hardly!
;-)

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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:00 PM
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11. Dig in or work with GOP? No-brainer choice, IMO
They start working with the GOP, they're doomed. The GOP will blackmail them further and further with threats of 'unpatriotic', get more and more of their odious legislation passed with the help of spineless dems, and still paint them as unpatriotic before the next election. The Dems need to say no right now, and take the consequences. It's better in the long run.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:28 PM
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12. Damn Straight!
This is the way it works, once they are sure of total control, they begin to make the clueless and the opposition complicit in their foul deeds. Works like this:

"I didn't hear you yelping about equality and the common good when I got YOUR son a deferment."

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