Rate 2008 hopefulls

[The Sushi Bandit]

Poll question: Rate 2008 hopefulls

never too early!

[WI_DEM]

1. who is Mark Hickson?

[lancdem]

5. I never heard of him either

Maybe it's supposed to be Mark Warner?

[The Sushi Bandit]

6. Never heard of him??

Photo of Mark (center) while making a campaign stop at Disneyland

[jefferson_dem]

48. Introducing Mark Hickson -

Looks like a cool guy. But presidential timber...?

http://www.naace.org/whoIsWhoView.asp?menuItemId=10&whoIsWhoId=369

[The Sushi Bandit]

61. Wrong Mark Hickson (look at the photo!)

here is his website

http://www.MarkHickson.com

[TahitiNut]

67. Cute one, oh sashimi burglar

:silly: :dunce:

[noamnety]

2. One for Kerry

It would depend on him getting more visibility in the next two years.

I'd support any of our candidates without hesitation, though. I hope we will make it a competition of strengths, not a bashfest, between now and then.

[Roland99]

3. Someone as of now unknown

[Placebo]

4. Hillary '08

Onward To Victory!

[ArtVandaley]

7. Why?

Seriously, why Hillary?

[Placebo]

8. I absolutely love her, and it's her time.

Time to run a woman for President, time for Hillary to make final grab for the greatest political power, final chance to have another Clinton in the White House. And, I believe she can win. I think people constantly underestimate her and they will be proven wrong.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. I think if we want a woman, Barbara Boxer would be a better choice

1) Doesn't come with Hillary's baggage

2) Much better record of standing up for progressive ideals than Hillary.

[JohnKleeb]

20. ahh hell yes

she's great.

[jackster]

36. babs boxer is a possibility...

or what what one of the female govs?

I'd love Hillary but she's not electable.... I'm afriad that some nutjob would shoot her anyway...

in 8 years obama can run...

[Hippo_Tron]

43. Female govs, who do you mean?

Katherine Sebelius I'm about pretty sure is too conservative for the national ticket, and Kathleen Useless Blanco shares the same predicament that Sebelius does except for the fact that if she had any skills as a politician she could be a fairly good southern moderate governor instead of a DINO. What other female govs are there? BTW Anybody whose rich and is governor of a Northeastern state is PROBABLY (but not 100%) a big no-no.

[jackster]

47. I'm not really up on whos who on the gov list...

I was just throwin it out...

I know that here in Mass there's a woman who works very hard to put women in governor's offices over the country because that's the best market for potential presidents...

if there aren't any, then we oughta be working to make sure there are...

in Mass we tried to elect a woman governor - instead we got mitt pretty boy romney!

[Hippo_Tron]

52. Yeah, yer state shouldn't have a Repuke governor

Mass is about as liberal as it gets. I'm told Romney intends to retire soon, probably a good opportunity to snatch the governor's mansion.

[jackster]

56. Romney retiring.....

maybe in order to take or run for something bigger....

he's got this whole gay marriage thing he's gotta fight against doncha know....

what makes that really scary is that his LT Gov Healey - now she's a piece of work.... she's about as qualified as Romney's predecessor whatever the heck was her name that was Lt Gov under Cellucci

Boy what a string of whack jobs we've had!

[IndianaGreen]

23. She is the only star on the list

Let's face it, despite the misgivings many of us may have about the pandering and triangulating Hillary, she can certainly "outwit, outplay, outlast" all of the other candidates and she will obliterate the GOP nominee.

[Crunchy Frog]

54. I have nothing personal against Hillary

and I think she would make a fine president if she could get elected. I just don't believe that she could get elected in the current political climate.

She has been demonized by the RW to the extent that many people see her as practically the anti-Christ. If the Reds poured out this time to vote against someone like Kerry, I can't even imagine the kind of turnout they would have if they were voting against Hillary.

I think it's very sad that's the case, but being a realist, I simply cannot get behind a Hillary candidacy.

[lessthanjake]

9. I voted for dean

Although i would support most any of them with a passion, except for hillary.

[Zynx]

10. Mark Warner.

or Clark. Either one or both on a ticket is good to me. :-)

[0rganism]

27. Second the motion. Warner-Clark is a very strong ticket.

Governor + General + 2 "red state" natives = tough act to follow

[robbedvoter]

29. Zinni - for those who think Clark is not quite Democrat enough

:shrug:

[EVDebs]

11. Gen Zinni ?

Gen Zenni is the guy in May '04 who said 'wrong war, wrong place, wrong strategy' He would also make a great VP running mate with Kerry or Clark in '08. Maybe even Defense or Nat Sec Advisor...

But please, don't do Hillary. My conservative bro-in-law is just waiting for that ! Don't do this to me, with Bush he's bad enough now as it is...

[RafterMan]

16. Zinni

is a registered Republican.

[EVDebs]

21. Gen Zinni a Republican

Which just goes to show you that just as Sen Kerry rescued a Republican in Vietnam, and he might be able to rescue others in 2008 ! And Zinni said (see http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5113717/ ) that he couldn't vote for Bush as long as the neocons remained in the DoD.

Let's wait 'till '08 ... we'll tarry for Kerry !

[Kahuna]

46. He is. But he's not a hypocritical, put party before America whore..

like McCain. He's my kind of Republican. Wish there were more like him.

[Crunchy Frog]

49. I like him, but if they went after Clark

because he was an Independent who used to vote for Republicans more than a dozen years ago, I can't even imagine what they would do to Zinni who is a bone fide Registered Republican and voted for W in 2000.

[ArtVandaley]

57. Yeah, I like Zinni

He seems very bright and he has a realistic foreign policy perspective. I think he'd be a great Sec of Defense or NSa

[against all enemies]

22. Did your conservative brother-in-law wait to vote against Bill in 1996?

I bet he hated him too, and bill won. And Bill would win again in 2008, and he would have won in 2000 and 2004. And neither Bill nor Hillary would have gotten us into this mess. So tell your B-in -law to go screw.

[TheWebHead]

12. Bayh is missing...

He's our best bet.

[corporatemedia]

17. yeah, he should be on the list...

[Jack Bone]

24. yeah

He's definately one of the stronger horses in our stable...

[iwantmycountryback]

65. Good lord no.

If you want to vote for a Republican, you might as well vote for Bayh. He's a conservative politician from a red state, blechh, no way.

[Kahuna]

13. What a list!

:eyes:

[VOX]

15. How about a fellow named *John Edwards*?????

He, Clark and Dean are all tip-top gentlemen -- appealing go-getters all.

[Harlan James]

18. The only thing wrong with this poll..

..is I can only vote for Clark once.

[against all enemies]

19. Shit, I thought it said "A prayer to be named later" and I voted for it.

I mean can you blame me, with all the pressure for Democrats to be more religious.

[blackangrydem]

25. Could Kerry and Gore run on the same ticket?

[elcondor]

26. They COULD

. . . but it's not going to happen! ;-)

[robbedvoter]

30. If they don't kill each other first....Gore passed Kerry for VP, Kerry

retaliated by having DNC kicking him out of the race, Gore answered by endorsing dean, then Edwards, Kerry mangled Gore's anti-war part of his convention speech....yep. That'll work!

[LittleClarkie]

44. With Gore's old campaign manager going after Kerry

And the past history with that same campaign manager and the Dukakis campaign, not to mention that Gore stepped in to take credit for relief for Boston fishermen (or somesuch), a Kerry project, when Gore was campaigning in Mass., I do believe there is too much animosity between the two camps for any kind of decent relationship.

[Gyre]

28. Verrrrry interesting choice of colors there Sushi!

Color Meme alert: To set your subconscious straight repeat 10 times, "Dean IS NOT GAY! And Kucinich IS NOT A COMMIE!" :tinfoilhat:

Gyre

[The Sushi Bandit]

33. Mahalo!

[HuskerDem]

31. Clark all the way............................. eom

[baltodemvet]

32. Can I get back to you on that?

I'm in no rush to get that settled. Let's wait until we have a cleared picture of the 'battleground' and the leadership options.

[AntiCoup2K4]

34. Grovelbot may be dead, but Clarkbot is alive and well

:evilgrin:

[Kahuna]

45. Ha ha ha! Good one.

Some Clarkbot will pay you back for that later.

:evilgrin:

[MaggieSwanson]

35. Dennis Kucinich

My choice since last October, and still the most courageous, wise, and trustworthy candidate I have ever met.

[no name no slogan]

37. I'm with you, Maggie!

I'm still standing with Dennis Kucinich, a man who has the courage of his convictions, who won't back down from a fight, no matter how bad the odds are against him. :hi:

(P.S. like your new username!)

[okieinpain]

38. I saw clarks wife on cspan, and man she has to be what eleanor

roosevelt was like. she just sends out warmth and confidence.

[Mobius]

39. a big HELL YEAH FOR CLARK! Sign the petition too!

http://www.petitiononline.com/draftwes/petition.html

[Clark2008]

40. OT-but I can't wait until the 23

to get U2's CD...

At least, that's when I was told my local record store would have it.

(I'm in a city - that went blue - in a county and state that are red. They may not let us have U2 around here!)

[Mobius]

42. great username

I ordered my U2 stuff in several versions, Including the one with the book AND dvd. Check out Amazon, they have them all.

[NeoLotus]

58. Bring 'em HOME!

If Clark can bring the troops home then he is the man.

http://www.militaryproject.org/article.asp?id=406

Scroll down to the second section "Betrayal".

[Julien Sorel]

41. Clark keeps winning these things, even though the campaign is over.

The Clark message board is, by far, the most active one in Groups.

Yet, we are told, Clark's popularity here was an illusion, attributable to fifth columnists and DLC drones who signed up for the express purpose of laying astroturf for Clark...

[Crunchy Frog]

50. That was me.

I'm still getting paid big bucks to be a DLC astroturf here on DU.:P

[democratreformed]

51. Me too!!!!!! LOL n/t

[dionysus]

53. hey!! this is BBV!

can I get a receipt emailed to me? ;)

[Zhade]

55. Where's the "BBV Republican Candidate" choice?

Because until we get rid of the machines, that's the candidate who will win.

[Padraig18]

59. Until he tells me he isn't running, Howard Dean!

I want a candidate with some BALLS!

[LimpingLib]

60. Looking at these results,we might as well take a pass on 08

Shesh.

WE finally come close in Ohio (did better in Ohio than the nation at large for the first time in forever)then we want to flush it down the toilet.

Ive always said the nation is about 269-269 because I know that our 289-249 advantage in the least election will be flushed if we nominate a DLC stealth candidate.

And thats just for starters.

We will loose at least 40% of Hispanics for good , probabilly loose Iowa , Wisconsin , Nevada , New Mexico and never have a chance at Arizona and Florida.

If we nominate general Clark (or another of the elite elect) then we will turn electoral momentum on our side over to the GOP and they will be the governing majority for decades.


Liebermann at least wore the DLC label on his sleeve.Now is the time we get in touch with the nation so we stop making the same mistakes every cycle. Kerry was somewhat progressive enough to allow us to observe the small spark left in our nation (we did MUCH better in many states than we have in ages or ever)but we will risk turning off progressives and populists forever from the voting process.

Looking at these results I say we just concede 2008 , dont nominate anybody, and at least hold our ground with the nation that we would badly loose by nominating Clark.

[TheDonkey]

62. Kerry/Obama

Clark needs some government experience first. He should def. run for Senate now riding on his name recog.

[LimpingLib]

64. You think he can win in Arkansas?

Huckabee would clobber him.Lincoln or Prior would wipe him out in the primary anyway.

I know he wouldnt have a chance in a national race anyway.

Maybe congress but then again any of the 3 Democratic congresspersons would be better than him (except Mike Ross , a conservative in a heavy liberal district , maybe Clark would be an inch to the left of him).

He wouldnt have a prayer in the conservative north western district.

While we are mentioning Arkansas , I think we should study Vic Snyder a staunch liberal in a conservative district. Thats how we win.

[TheDonkey]

66. Oh I didn't know we had 2 Democrats in Arkansas

Knew Prior was, thought the other was a repuke.
Clark has the name recog and power to carpet bag too.
He could move into another state we need and pick an unpopular repug off.

I don't think he can win nationally if he has no policy cred.

[Thrill]

63. Mike Easley will be the nominee

you watch and see. THe Dems must run a Governor

[The Sushi Bandit]

68. How about Mark Hickson??