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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:43 PM
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Right-wing Lucianne.com post on Karl Rove being behind bin Laden tape
WOO BABY!!! READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON THE POST BELOW,
anyone know if there is such a law-suit? Is it real? If it is, then we may be looking at somethiung interesting, but it hasnt been reported that i know of. any links are appreciated


here is the post:
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Fidel Castro casts suspicion on appearance
of bin Laden tape ahead of U.S. election

http://www.lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=184169

Reply 17 - Posted by: NickG, 11/18/2004 12:25:04 PM
I never give much credence to anything Fidel (or Cronkite) say; but even a clock is right two times a day.

Anyone read the text of the tape? It was all straight from the DNC talking points/words, not the traditional Osama-speak at all, to a fault.

By associating OBL with Kerry, it could have been a clever impersonation/forgery to outrage the GOP base and boost voter turn out (Karl Rove foot printsa all over).

OBL didn't just suddenly appear when he did, just to criticize Bush...

(...AND, TO EXPLICITLY CONFESS TO THE 911 ATTACKS AS HE DID, coincidentally soon after Bush & Co. has been sued in a class-action just over that responsibility for 911 by many WTC survivors).
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:46 PM
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1. Why are you getting excited about a post on a message board?
Anyone could have written that.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:51 PM
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2. Exactly
I wouldn't put it past him, but .. .
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:03 PM
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8. Why? because I'm stunned Bush is getting sued for causing 911
the Osama tape a few days before the election always had a bad smell to it but I couldn't put my finger on it

but this post shows a connection that finally makes some sense.

To launch a lawsuit you have to have evidence or it gets thrown out real quick, therefore most lawyers will never launch one unless there is some evidence.

If a lawsuit does exist and it hasnt been thrown out it means there must be some evidence, and Bush's lawyer would be worried.

Now if Osama bin Ladin was on video tape confessing to 911, well just this tape alone could get the whole lawsuit dismissed!

Bingo! Just when needed, Osama pops up out of nowhere to save the day.

I always say follow the money
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:51 PM
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3. couple of links
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 01:05 PM by dweller
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:40 AM
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9. Excellent, thanks! I ALSO GOT THE ACTUAL LAWSUIT COMPLAINT LINK!

This is real, it's before the judge in Federal Court in San Francisco!

http://suetheterrorists.net/page2.html
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:54 PM
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4. hmm.. makes you think
he did look more like he'd been living in a palace for the past year, rather than hiding in caves.. cheney's bunker? tin foil hats or concrete shoes? we need more evidence. anyone have a link to the latest Been-Laid-tons tape?
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:55 PM
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5. Here ya go
Here's a link:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/082702_lawsuits.html

Also, a class action lawsuit has been filed in California, the details of which are here:

http://suetheterrorists.net/
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:43 AM
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10. YEP! THIS IS THE ONE I NEEDED...THANKS

Now you see, this is why the Osama bin Laden tape CONFESSING TO 911 (explaining why he did it) came up!

They want to take this Osama tape into court now to get the case dismissed!

This is SO evil, why can't this TRUTH be publicized some more?????????
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:56 PM
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6. It Was a Conspiracy, But Not That....

Rove behind the OBL tape? That goes a little far. That's like saying they were behind 9-11 'cos they knew it would give Dubya his "mandate" - some things are just too far out.

But, I do believe OBL wanted Bush to win. And he came up with this tape seemingly anti-Bush bit because he knew it would cause a backlash. OBL isn't stupid.

And I think Bush has deliberately avoided going after OBL the way he could because he likes having this threat out there, kind of like the cold war because it provides justification for his neo-con policies. OBL likes it too, because he gets the notoriety in Muslim circles of being the man America couldn't defeat.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:58 PM
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7. Exactly
Rove wouldn't have had to do this. Osama knew what to do. They -- Bush and Osama -- are in a symbiotic relationship that need not be conspiratory.
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:58 AM
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11. NO DISRESPECT BUT YOU REALLY UNDERESTIMATE BUSH & HIS PEOPLE

Fact: The Pentagon was not hit by an airliner, but by a missile. Zero plane wreckage, zero images (gov't refuses to release security camera video & confiscated & lost nearby gas station's video)

Fact: The WTC towers did not collapse from melted structural steel as gov't claims (prepostorous, such steel melts at 2800 degrees F, maximum fire/explosion temperature from jet fuel and bldg contents = 1800 degrees F, that is a full 1,000 degrees too low).

Fact: Seismic graphs show massive internal explosions caused by explosives (planted) caused the towers' collapses (this also accounts for the speed of the collapse, impossible otherwise, and that all the concrete turned to dust, would not have without explosives).

Fact: No structural steel building has ever gone down from a fire, even fires much much worse, before 9/11, or after (and never will).

Fact: If the above is true, terrorists could not possibly have done this.

Fact: there is much more evidence just as good as that.

Fact: If the terrorists didn't do it, the government had to have done it.


I KNOW IT APPEARS UNBELIEVABLE. I WENT THROUGH THAT TOO, BUT I SAW THE EVIDENCE. IT'S IN THE INTERNET. THINGS ARE MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:12 AM
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12. And a new 99 year lease had just been signed
and a new insurance policy to go along with it:

http://www.realestatejournal.com/propertyreport/bricks/20020508-bricks.html

Guliani was in on this too. Ever wonder how he remained so calm through the whole thing? Because he knew it was going to happen. Ever wonder why he came to the plate towards the end of the presidential campaign, backing Bush big time, even though he disagrees with him on gay rights, abortion rights and many other matters? Because he's a co-conspirator in this whole nasty mess.
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willysnout Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 02:24 AM
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13. Get Your Tinfoil Hats!
The Lucinanne Goldberg site links to SF Gate (San Francisco Chronicle) report that Fidel Catro accused the Bush administration of ginning up the tape. The article notes that Castro provided no substantiation for his allegation. And THAT is your scoop?! Gee, I'm on the edge of me seat ... NOT.
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VIHMH5L50P Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:23 AM
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14. no no no no, you missed the whole point of this

the post 17 makes a very good observation.

The timing and content of the last OSAMA tape is very suspicious.

After being just about given up for dead he suddenly appears out of nowhere to say what? not much except that he confesses to 911. hmmm

nobody said evidence, just points to a place where a lot of smoke is coming out of and where you see smoke, you often see fire.

follow the money: who wins? Bush. Why? Osama comes out and confesses to 911, just after Bush himself was sued in court for blame for 911.

Why with this video evidence the video tape Bush can have the damned lawsuit dismissed by any judge especially a friendly one! and he might get a bump in the election to boot.

what a coincidence schrub wins from an Osama tape. and he looked pretty healthy too, no way he's been in cold dirty caves for 3 years and needing kidney dialysis.

Now you get it? ok, what part don't you get?
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