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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:57 PM
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do you think the blue states will be safe from Bushco?
besides having to pay 1/3 of what we make to Halliburton and the red states, will we be free of harrassment from fundies? Relatively insulated from NCLB? I am trying to figure out of I need to move all the way to Canada, or if Seattle will keep me safe.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:00 PM
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1. Are the blue states loyal?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:02 PM
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2. Even here in a red state I'm free of fundie harrassment
I know of a Hindu commune near here, a group of Bahais, and folks who practice Native American spirituality as well as Sufis living in northwest Arkansas, not far from Branson. So far, we haven't been harrassed, and I've lived here since '91.

The people around here have a libertarian streak, however, and cherish their privacy. The Repuke sheriff candidate LOST because he said he'd visit every home in the county every six months. So my area may be different than other areas, but I hope not.
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:04 PM
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3. HAHAHAHAH!!!!
Even Canada cannot completely protect you from the evil of this administration.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:07 PM
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4. until we get rid of the bbv problem - we will never win another
election, period. Don't pass go. Don't collect our $200. Sorry!

This is serious business. (I wanted to say 'fucking business', but I didn't want to put anyone off)...
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:08 PM
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5. Not really.......
....But we will be heavily poised to help those seeking freedom from the red states.

Fire up the underground railroad....it's going to be a bumpy ride!

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:38 PM
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7. I am mostly worried about my money
I have made arrangements to have someone in Canada shelter my kids if they get drafted, so I am safe on that front. My worry is that they will devise a way to put the financial burden of "Duh-bya's Bogus Journey" on the people like me who work for a living. I know they're going to get the poor kids to fight the wars, but I thinkthey'll try to find a way to get the middle class to pay for it.

What I would REALLY like is for my governor and state legislature (IL) to declare that no one in Illinois will pay federal income tax while this stupid war is ongoing. We in the blue states don't have any presence in the media, but we do send alot of money to the red states. I'd like to try to "starve the beast" by refusing to subsidize the policies of Mad Smirk.
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Idylle Moon Dancer Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:52 PM
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9. I had the same thought recently
"What I would REALLY like is for my governor and state legislature (IL)
to declare that no one in Illinois will pay federal income tax while
this stupid war is ongoing"

Are there any state governments right now that might go for this?

What would the feds do if this happened?

Maybe someone with more posts could start a thread...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:55 PM
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10. we'll look into this in feb-march
this is the sort of activism that i think might work. Needs a big grouop though. If you try to do it yourself, they'll just throw you in Leavenworth.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:15 AM
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13. HI Arthur W Jermyn!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:57 PM
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11. I believe that there are some new treaties

Which just came into being which effectively prevents Canada from
being a safe haven for draft evaders.

I'm sure I heard about this, perhaps another DUer has a link or
better recollection. Anyway, before sending them to Canada thinking
they are safe from the draft check it out first.
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Idylle Moon Dancer Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:05 PM
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12. Flood of would-be tax-dodgers?
If a state could and did decide to stop paying fed. taxes, they might
want/need to raise state taxes. I'd be all for this if they put the
money to good use.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:22 PM
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6. No one is safe from Bush and his band of lunatics
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:44 PM
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8. close enough to the border you can walk across n/t
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