Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Progressive Democratic think tank calls for House to pick Kucnich leader

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:23 PM
Original message
Progressive Democratic think tank calls for House to pick Kucnich leader
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 04:23 PM by Padme Amidala
The Patrick Henry Democratic Club, organized as a progressive think tank, has called for the House Democrats to select Dennis Kucinich as House Minority Leader.

Dennis has demonstrated that he is the kind of leader the American people can trust. He is true to his word and his principals. He has also shown that he will not back down to pressure. If America is to survive the next four years, the Democrats need a leader like Dennis in the House of Representatives.

The group's website is at patrickhenrythinktank.org
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hear, hear!
DK is a leading voice of reason and morality in America
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:28 PM
Response to Original message
2. Hear Hear
Maybe one house will get smart -
Obviously the Senate has caved
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yes!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
4. I'd love to see that,
but it'll never happen. Dems are major chickenshits right now, and selecting a far-left minority leader would be spun as "look how out-of-touch they are," so the Quisling moderate SOBs wouldn't have it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Uh, a guy from a real blue collar background who still represents a
blue collar district is "out of touch"?

How about the Senators and Congresscritters who voted for the IWR while their constituents were marching against it by the tens of thousands?

Go, DK! He is one Dem who richly deserves to be more widely known.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I'm not calling him out of touch - just saying that's how it'd be spun.
Hell, I live in Cleveland, I've adored the guy for-freakin'-ever. But that's what the spin would be, and logic very rarely penetrates that spin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. He won by over a 70% victory in November. I'd call that in-touch
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. AGAIN, I'm not calling him out of touch.
THAT'S HOW IT WOULD BE SPUN if a far-left liberal took Minority leader, and once it's spun, it's what everyone believes, facts be damned. What percentage of Americans still belive we found WMDs in Iraq and that Saddam planned 9/11?

And by the way, he won by 58%, which is much lower than the 67% Kerry got in this county, and it's also his smallest margin of victory ever in a congressional race. His popularity is waning here, largely due to the fact that he's hardly been in town for a year and a half.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. That's all the more reason he should get the job
What could be more entertaining than watching some shithead like Bill O'Reilly bitching about the latte liberal elite in Cleveland being out of touch with real American values.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #19
31. Hi le chien jaune!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nestea Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #10
24. Pelosi voted against IWR too
What makes Kooch so great?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquarianM Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #4
26. It's WAY past time we stood on what we believe in and stop trying to be...
...a slightly less vile form of Repugnican. Our strength is our core values.

Fair and verifiable elections.
Civil rights.
Fair trade.
Health care
Education
Clean energy policies
Making sure basic human necessities are met.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #26
32. Hi AquarianM!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eataTREE Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
5. He may look like an elf, but...
...he's never been afraid to say what he really thought and in that, he's superior to 99% of Dems in Congress.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
6. Pelosi is fine.
What has Kucinich demonstrated other than that he can pull in two or three percent in Democratic primaries?

:shrug:

Why doesn't Kucinich run for Senate or for Governor of Ohio? It's not like there's a plethora of Democrats already in those positions.

Peter
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I guess voting Democrat on issues doesn't matter to Pelosi supporters
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 04:40 PM by Padme Amidala
After all good leaders would cater to Bush, right?

By the way, Dennis came in 2nd, ahead of Edwards, in more than one state.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #7
23. Before or after Edwards dropped out?
Kucinich stayed until the end - think that might have anything to do with it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #23
33. Before Edwards dropped out.
In my state of Maine Kucinich beat Edwards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
8. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. Hey Craig
What's the story on that pic in your sig mate?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
9. Good.
He deserves it, he will stand up for us, he will not be a Bush** supporter. He tells it like it is and does not back down. He is just what we need. Republicans respect him even if they do not agree with him. I hope they do it. Pelosi lost my respect a long time ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
11. ABSOLUTELY .
It is essential that progressive dem views on the environment and trade get through the media filter. Of course, this is the reason he has about a snowball's chance, but here's to hope :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
12. I'll sign on to that!
------------------------------------
Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:24 PM
Response to Original message
13. DenNIS! DenNIS! DenNIS! -nt-
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 06:02 PM
Response to Original message
17. Exactly!
Dennis has integrity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
20. Everyone contact your rep or the nearest Dem rep and get them to back him
America needs Dennis.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Albert Einstein Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
21. Good work, PHDC. Go Dennis!
I'll start making calls tomorrow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:37 AM
Response to Original message
22. Look, I love Dennis...he's great. A very principled man.
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 01:43 AM by BullGooseLoony
But I just don't see him as a leader, for some reason. Ever since he said "We need a Department of PEACE!!" during the primaries...I can't get it out of my mind. That's not the kind of reality-based thinking that's going to help our party. It's too hippie-pot-smoker sounding. It won't resonate with middle-America.

I know so many of you are going to hate me for this, and I don't like it either because I see people saying the same kind of dumb shit about Dean. But it's just the way I see him, and I'm sorry.

On edit: Man, when he said that.....I just my head and held it in my hands and said "Ohhh, Dennis"....Everytime I think of him, that's what I think of.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #22
27. He is a principled man...
That's why he's a leader.

"Ever since he said "We need a Department of PEACE!!"

That is what I used to think, until a day in January at a campaign office in Manchester, New Hampshire.

I was up there freezing, doing the door-to-door thing for Kucinich..and he showed up to lend moral support. It wasn't some quick in-and-out deal. He was there for about four hours, and doing that time, I had a chance to ask him about some of his platform. I had never met the man before.

I asked him about the "Department of Peace". And being a midwestern conservative, I wanted to know what it entailed, and I was skeptical.
He took about 40 minutes and explain to myself and some other campaign workers what it was all about in detail. He stressed the foreign and domestic applications that such a department would reach. I was impressed in the in-depth, factual and structual analysis I was getting and that ran through the full range of his proposal. What really sold me on Dennis as a candidate was how he thought his positions out. I didn't agree on all of them, but I did appreciate a candidate who wasn't trying to sound-bite me to death. He appreciate getting the straight poop on what he wanted to do, and how he was going to do it.

As far as the Department of Peace goes, I found it to be a refreshing, innovation proposal. Imagine that, a President not grabbing his rhetorical crotch and saying to the world, "BRING IT ON!" We've had so much trash-talk coming out of the White House since 2001, that I was beginning to think we had elected Deion Sanders.

To me, the bluster of this current administration is behavior that is "pot-smoker sounding". And many mid-Americans don't take kindly to big talk when they understand that it's all hat and no cattle.

Of all the people we have in Congress, the 5'6" gentleman from Ohio stands as a giant. This man has something that can move people, and I think the opposition in Congress needs to look at that when selecting an opposition leader.

It is time for our Party to be a tough, determined opposition again. Our nation is depending on it between now and 2006.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. I hear ya. As I was writing that post
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 03:24 AM by BullGooseLoony
I was thinking that I just need to hear about another side of Dennis...I feel kind of jaded on him because that was the one thing that stuck in my mind. And I see what you're saying about the detail- the detail is very important. It shows he has a real vision- an even rarer product of already rare principle.

Thank you for that post. That helps a lot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:10 AM
Response to Reply #22
28. On the peace thing, he's actually channelling Richard Nixon.
War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military might has expanded beyond our capacity to control it and our political differences widened beyond our ability to bridge them. . . .

Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.

--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)

Admittedly, politicians are usually allowed to say stuff like that only after they retire, and Dennis is unusual in saying it while still being a working politician.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:26 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. That is a powerful quote.
Very striking from a man like Nixon. Oddly, that says something about Nixon, too.

Seen Stone's movie?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquarianM Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:19 AM
Response to Original message
25. Absolutely Dennis!
I couldn't agree more with that choice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
34. Yes!
Dennis Rocks! And he's just what the House/Party need right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
35. Yes! and they stated the case very succinctly:


"He is true to his word and his principals. He has also shown that he will not back down to pressure."

That is exactly what is needed now!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC