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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:40 PM
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The Perfect Election Day Crime -TomPaine.com Exclusive


The Perfect Election Day Crime

by Steve Rosenfeld, TomPaine.com Exclusive

Why were the lines at the Ohio polls so long in majority black precincts?

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/the_perfect_election_day_crime.php


In Ohio,questions persist about intentional or accidental voting mishaps. Which voting problem cost Kerry the most votes may never be known. Kerry's fate aside, Air America's Steven Rosenfeld's investigation found the inadequate supply of polling machines in Ohio shows a system badly in need of reform.

Steven Rosenfeld is senior producer of The Laura Flanders Show on Air America Radio. Previously he was senior editor of TomPaine.com

Americans are learning there are many ways to tilt and take elections.

That’s the only clear conclusion since John Kerry’s concession speech. We now know there are as many ways to manipulate the vote as there are types of voting machines and different communities that can be targeted by those who want to intimidate voters and suppress turnout. But the big unanswered question of Nov. 2, 2004, is which tactic, technical breakdown or error lost the most votes.

On Thursday, Nov. 11, a step was taken toward finding at least part of the answer. Cliff Arnebeck, the Columbus, Ohio-based attorney who is counsel for Common Cause’s Ohio chapter and the Alliance for Democracy, announced that the groups would pursue a recount of the Ohio vote . Arnebeck said the Green Party and Libertarian Party presidential candidates each agreed to file for a recount, providing the $110,000 filing fee could be met. He announced that a fund drive was underway, as was putting pressure on the Kerry campaign to pay for it. In coming days, Ohio’s provisional ballot count is likely to be finished. That starts a five-day clock during which a recount can be formally requested. As of Monday morning, Nov. 14, $200,000 had been raised toward an Ohio recount—all but assuring it will happen.


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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:20 PM
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1. Thanks, good article
There are so many factors and so many of them hidden, I don't really have a clue what will come out of the recount efforts or those going on at Bev Harris' BlackBoxVoting.org. I do believe this election was stolen, just as we predicted it would be, right under the noses of the snoozing Democrats.

One of the things I still wonder about is what Bev Harris meant in her Nov 5 DU post, when she said that their group was not the only one searching for evidence of election fraud. People are still arguing over whether Kerry's weirdly early concession was part of a Strategy or just trying to keep his political ducks in a row. If the latter, he may be surprised at the backlash from citizens of his own party.

I hope that Michael Moore's new film, supposed to be a sequel of Farenheit 9/11 doesn't have an scene duplicating that sad, sad part of the original F 9/11 in which not one senator supported the Congressional Black Caucus' call for questioning the certification of the 2000 election results.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:36 PM
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3. Such a weird and moving scene. I thought one Senator would
have come to the aid of Gore. Well I hope that this search in Ohio
will find the matchbook cover or the finger print that points to the truth.
Glad to see a new thinker in our corner. Welcome Hope.
:hi:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:01 AM
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6. Thanks for the warm welcome!
As you can see, I'm a newbie here. This DU board amazes me -- it's like a hurricane rushing by with so many posts and topics. It's already clear to me that this is the best place for updates on the election "discrepancies."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:08 PM
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4. I also found that to be the most disturbing scene
in the film, so very sad. It was like witnessing the death of Democracy.
Actually not 'like', it was...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:33 AM
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8. Hi Nothing Without Hope!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 05:09 PM
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9. Thanks, Newyawker!
I hope the warmth of your welcome won't cool when I divulge that I'm a contented Red Sox fan! }(
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:22 PM
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2. 200/Florida - 2004/Ohio
end result still the same; FRAUD
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:55 PM
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5. doesn't this deserve a re-vote?
Really! Thousands of people not being able to vote! They have to let them vote!!

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