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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:33 PM
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Poll question: 2008: A Liberal Candidate?
I know many of you would love it if Dr. Dean ran again in 2008 but here in Wisconsin a lot of us are thinking Russ Feingold may be a strong Presidential candidate as well. He would dominate a debate with any GOP candidate and is such a maverick that he finds a way to sidestep the liberal grabage tags every time out.

So the question I pose is, Which would make the better 2008 Presidential Candidate for the Left?

There are no wrong answers...

Rp

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:39 PM
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1. I don't think a Senator has a chance in Hell of winning, period
But I have no objections at all to a Dean/Feingold ticket.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:43 PM
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10. Dean deserves another chance
but the Veep definitely has to be a woman or person of color. Democrats have completely walked away from Sen. Mondale's historic choice of a woman VP, and just gone with boring white men for the second spot, like Republicans do. How's that going to excite the electorate?
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:46 PM
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2. Wes Clark
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said "better" candidate.

:^)

Hey, I'm not trying to start another war here. I think, and I suspect most agree, that this was Clark's one chance to run and the fates (and the media) turned their faces away. So be it.

I also suspect that the chances of running a real progressive in 2008 are slim to none (assuming BushCo bothers with niceties like elections by that time). The "interest" in the grassroots the party bosses are portraying has more to do with the ability to raise lots of maoney in a hurry, than with any real concern with what you or I think.

If a real progressive runs in 2008 I doubt very much it will be as a Democrat, one of the reasons I think the time has come to walk away from the party voices and start a new movement.

Why do I feel like a lone voice crying out in the wilderness?
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joelogan Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:51 PM
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3. yep. Lone voice, damn near (and BTW, Dean is no liberal)
And I think feingold's liberal pedigree is a bit questionable, too, from what I hear.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:07 PM
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4. Neither of those two.
nt
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briankup Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:10 PM
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6. hey...
...at least they can't say feingold is the most liberal member of the senate.
;)
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:10 PM
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5. Let's swing for the green monster so-to-speak...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:12 PM
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7. agreed-- I'll DEFINITELY wait to see what the GP does in 2008....
eom
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:20 PM
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8. I love Russ, but
Governor trumps Senator and Dean is has all the instincts of a grassroots maveric. He knows the party needs to start over and engage the people who vote for it.
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roguewolf5 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:34 PM
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9. hmmm
to early to say. i do like howeverhow this poll doesn't include any old guard Dems. i believe that it is time for new leadership.

so that being said...i'll have to get back to you :)
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ArtVandaley Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:01 AM
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11. Feingold
He's the most principled man in the Democratic party. And he's very independent, which appeals to swing voters as well as progressives. Voting against the Patriot Act even after the late Daschle warned him not to took a lot of courage. That's the type of man I want in the White House.
Feingold/Richardson 2008
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:18 AM
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15. He sure is!
and we do need principles.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:36 AM
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12. Feingold all the way!!! (eom)
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consciousobjector Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:04 AM
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13. Kerry's still my choice
and he's already expressed interest in running in 2008. Of course the question is moot because when it's all said and done, Kerry will have won 2004 and be running for re-election in '08
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:58 AM
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17. Hi consciousobjector!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:17 AM
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14. oooh..that was a tough choice. I love Feingold though.
I would be delighted with either, but Feingold is just amazing. Not your typical politician. Plus a new face, people would definitely warm up to him in a hurry.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:44 AM
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16. Senators rarely win the presidency, so Howard Dean
But Howard Dean is not a liberal. I am not sure there is a label for Dean - maybe populist progressive. He is fiscally conservative but he isn't a conservative. He is pro civil rights, including gays, but he think in terms of social class rather than race when it comes to affirmative action. As Gov of VT he had an A rating from the NRA.

I say Dean because he was a Gov and because I like the way he plainly speaks. I also think his southern strategy worked.

I really don't know much about Feingold except for campaign finace reform, but Senators have a rough time getting elected Presdient. Got a liberal Governor we can consider?
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