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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:50 AM
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*'s mandate?
I see many posts here saying that if we somehow get a recount that shows that Kerry won, * will no longer have a "mandate" and will thus not govern like a psychopath. Can one of the proponents of this theory tell me why (s)he believes it? He actually DID lose the 2000 election - does not contest that fact - and spent his first term governing like a psychopath. WHy will this time be different?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:52 AM
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1. * got less votes last time,
and look where we are. :grr:
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:53 AM
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2. I agree completely.
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aprillcm Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:59 AM
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3. Yup
Bush does not need a mandate to do damage he simply needs the office of the Presidency. Okay how do we impeach him??
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:30 AM
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9. We can't impeach him. That's easily answered.
The House of Representatives has power of impeachment. The Senate then tries under oath, and the president may be convicted only by 2/3 majority. I think it's obvious that is never going to happen.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:59 AM
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4. It feels good to exercise those 'activist' muscles
and challenge some voting results. Its empowering in a time when we desperately need to feel empowered.

* will govern as he will, but if we can close the voting results gap, all the better.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:05 AM
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5. Empowering?
to find out that * will serve four more years, despite having lost again? Sorry, that makes me feel weaker, not stronger :shrug:
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:52 AM
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8. Yes, the process of challenging, to question Authority
is what 'democracy' is all about.

QUESTION

DEMAND AN ANSWER

CHALLENGE THE ANSWER

DON'T BACK DOWN

If we have learned anything from Karl Rove & co. is that sustained attacks can dent the armour--- can cause- a bit of doubt-- in peoples minds.

We have to fight the fight in whatever opening we have
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tanstaafl Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:15 AM
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6. Mandate My A$$
Bush's mandate from the people is Dick Cheney

or

Dick Cheney's Lesbian daughter has more of a Mandate than GWB.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:28 AM
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7. this time will be different
because he won't be campaigning for the entire term like he did last time.

if he had one by a single PV, he would still claim a mandate. that's how he operates. black/white. WINNER/loser.

i had a dream last night where an Ohio recount showed a very narrow win for Kerry... I don't think it's a likely scnenerio, but, until the votes are ALL counted...

the KEY issue in the vote challenges, from a partisan perspective, is that all reports of potential fraud are cases which benefitted republican candidates (as far as I've heard). tainting the outcome may be the best that democratcs get...

but, reforming and standardizing the voting process, including the outlawing of any technology that is not open-source and provided a voter-verified and recountable ballot, benefits us all.


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