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scoobydoo Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:34 AM
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Should I continue to argue and go away feeling sad or
should I just shut up and do my work.

At work almost all are rethugs and they didn't gloat to much. But if I bring up the election they assalt me with all the RW sh@t. Stuff like.

GWB won the most votes in history. 60+ million and counting.

GWB became the first president in 60 years to win re-election while his party was in control of BOTH the House and the Senate.

GWB became the first president in 68 years to win re-election and actually GAIN seats in both the House and the Senate.

And I don't know how to respond except be sad and hurt. I am leaning to just shutting my mouth for now and hoping they will understand and be shhh too.

Is this the right way to do this? Thanks to all who answer me on this. I am off to bed cause I was out drinking but I knew all the smart people here on DU could give me good advise.

Thanks in advance to you all and I will wake up happy knowing you will all point me in the right direction!!! I know I don't post often but thats cause I am not all that talkative but I come here for news. Thanks again DU!!!

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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:42 AM
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1. Be sure to tell these boobs that
Bush may also claim another statistic-more people voted AGAINST him than have ever voted against a President before. (Jeez-what an awkward sentence. But I think you understand what I'm saying.)
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:00 AM
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3. Don't forget his other accomplishments!
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 02:07 AM by Kipepeo
Why let them stop there? Revel in his accomplishments with them. :)

He turned the largest surplus in US history into the largest deficit in US history in just a little over 3 years!! That's hard work!

He presided over the largest national security failure in US history even with warnings months in advance! Wow!

He's taken a LOT of vacation time (does any know the stats? Don't have them handy). That much vacation is hard work.

He's given fewer press conferences than Clinton, Bush or Reagan (I'll look for the specific numbers in a sec). It takes a lot of hard work to avoid talking to the American public, especially in this time of war and public unease.

Edited to add: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=artic...

When Bush gave his 8th press conference, at the same time in their term in office Clinton had given 30, Bush's father had given 58, Reagan had given 16, Carter had given 45, Ford had given 37, Nixon had given 16, and Johnson had given 52.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:03 AM
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4. Advice: Perhaps you should lay off politics with co-workers for awhile
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 02:03 AM by Selatius
If bringing up the election only results in them throwing this stuff at you over and over again, it's probably best not to get into the issue of politics for a while. There's no need in making your going to work each morning an unhappy affair. (I'm assuming you're happy with your job)
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:03 AM
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5. bush also won by the SMALLEST margin ever for an incumbent.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 02:05 AM by scarletwoman
And as the other poster already said -- when the repugs say that bush* won by the largest number of votes ever, ask them if they know who got the SECOND largest number of votes in a presidential election ever. (They'll probably guess Reagan) Then you can just smile and say the answer is KERRY.

Repeat, there were more votes AGAINST bush* than were FOR any other winning presidential candidate in ANY other election. And remember that he got the SMALLEST MARGIN win of any incumbent president.

As for the congressional and senate races, just smile and say; "Well, we'll see how popular one party rule remains after the next two years. They won't have anyone to blame but themselves if things go wrong."

Good luck to you!

sw
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:07 AM
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6. Don't bring up the election......
.........and if they do, tell them you will demand they kiss your ass when Chimpy has to resign.......
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:10 AM
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7. More stuff to tell them
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 02:11 AM by ailsagirl
His margin of victory over Kerry was 3 million votes, the smallest margin of victory for an incumbent since 1916 and the smallest margin of victory for a President in a time of war in almost the same number of years. Further, he took the 11 Southern States by 5 million and lost the other 39 states by 2 million. Finally, without Ohio, Bush would have lost the election, and his margin of victory in Ohio was based on the gay-hate vote, the fear vote, and vote fraud by the machines in use. Even using the Liarfuhrer's definition of "mandate," any election in which you win by one or more votes, it's clear that he does not have a mandate to institute flat taxes, to destroy social security, to drive up the massive deficit, and to turn our republic into a theocracy, some of the ideas being pushed by the Bush conservatives in the aftermath.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:12 AM
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8. How about keeping quiet, but...
...have a mini memorial at your work station where you keep a running count of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. That might silence any smugness.

Oh, and you can keep a stack of these at the side of your desk:
http://www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.pdf
No need for words as they speak for themselves.
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missouri dem Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:13 AM
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9. Just ask them to point out where * has been successful in his first term.
Massive deficits? Wrong war under false pretenses? Tax breaks for Billionaires? Stooping 9/11? He has been the worst president ever with a lifetime of failure behind him.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:17 AM
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10. I would think it is who you are yelling at
If these people are the Christian right voters I would for get it but if they are just people who voted for Bush because of the war you could talk back. The Christian Right are a different breed, I think, as I had a family member that went over to them. I spent some time with them and they , or this group, tended to be right on every thing. They spend a good deal of time looking down on you and they do not like it if you talk back or question them. Every one of this type person I have run into in my life have had this type of thinking. Try reasoning with your 2 year old to get up to speed on talking to them.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 06:55 AM
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11. most people thought the earth was flat for a long time too
didn't make them right then -- doesn't make them right now.
do what makes you happy.
if living with less conflict makes you sleep better at night -- do that.
you're ok what ever you do.
there are other ways to keep up the struggle.
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Dem_Loyalist Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:31 AM
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12. I'm in the same predicament
The law office I work at is all repukes. If theres another progressive there they haven't said it out loud. But then its not something I go making public either as I have to keep this job. And being lawyers I'm sure they would find some way to can me that covers their asses if they really wanted to. So I listen to their gloating, keep a smile on my face and be the always cheerful receptionist.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:37 AM
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13. enjoy watching the cancer eat itself
that's morford's advice, and i agree with it. within a couple years we will have the last laugh, and it shoudl be good. Hide your money and your kids, then sit back and watch the country fall apart with the pride that comes with knowing that you did all you could to save her
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scoobydoo Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:12 PM
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14. Thank you all for responding. I couldn't get on before now.
And I am off to bed again now. I want to thank you all for responding and your advice!!!

Sweet dreams DU!!!!
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