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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:43 PM
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Poll question: If 2008 is a Ham Sandwich versus Jeb Bush, who would win?
Assuming nothing changes and both sides repeat their strategies.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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oddtext Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:09 PM
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1. bush may not win the election
but of course he'd steal it, likely eat the sandwich in the process.
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:19 PM
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2. LOL
:)
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:25 PM
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3. Assuming nothing changes
Bush will win.
That's what it means if nothing changes, right?
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Heath.Hunnicutt Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:18 PM
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12. This is why I voted Bush
Because the poll is about what you think would happen, not whether you would vote for the sandwich over Bush. Right?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:23 AM
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15. I mean nothing happening that "changes everything"
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:26 PM
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4. I Think
the more appropriate question would be, "If in 2008 a ham sandwich runs on the Repub ticket, will it beat a living, breathing, well-known Dem with government experience who isn't Bill Clinton?"

Clearly, the answer is yes.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:30 PM
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5. The Ham sandwich strategy has already proven to be a loser
If they love their boy, and we merely tolerate our boy, then they win.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:38 PM
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6. Jeb would win
Didn't they just prove they can cheat and win any election?
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:13 AM
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30. Twice
as a matter of fact.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:39 PM
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7. I'm voting for Pastrami
Does that mean I'm just throwing my vote away?
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neener3 Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:41 PM
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8. The Ham sandwich
loses the Jewish vote.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:56 PM
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10. Nah...
Only the orthodox vote :P
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:42 PM
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9. It depends.
Is there cheese on the sandwich????
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:12 PM
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11. I'll vote for the sandwich but the machine will register it as a Jeb vote.
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SouthALdem Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:48 PM
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36. Amen!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:30 PM
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13. I'm afraid I'll have to go with
Melonhead.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:01 AM
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14. "Anybody But (fill-in the blank)" is a miserable failure
Saying "I am not Bush" and "Look at me, I was in Vietnam" are a poor substitute for an alternate vision and program.

The working class is disoriented and easily manipulated by the capitalists because it lacks a class consciousness. Our challenge is to develop that class consciousness among working men and women.

View from the US left

Martin Schreader, editor of Appeal to Reason, paper of the revolutionary Debs faction of the Socialist Party US

Into the abyss


Certain wooden-headed elements of the left will, of course, continue to assert that little, if anything, new has happened as a result of this election. They will continue to see the old institutional facades in place and will impressionistically conclude that all talk of a new period in American history as delusional. They will note that the uniquely American brand of anti-democratic, anti-worker corporatism that has taken hold in Washington does not correspond to what they read in history books and vulgarly conclude that nothing has really changed. In this authors view, these are little more than the echoes of the past and should be treated as such.

It is time for class-conscious working people, revolutionary socialists and communists to face forward and begin to come to grips with the new situation confronting us. Working class unity will have to take as its starting point the development of a common assessment of this situation and the revolutionary democratic tasks that inevitably flow from it. Left unity - if such a thing is still possible - will have to be its by-product.

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/551/us%20left.htm
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Reality Not Tin Foil Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:25 AM
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16. LOL!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:38 AM
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17. The pig would win
His family cheats every election.

Show your support for the president, wear a FUCK BUSH button!

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:33 AM
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18. As long as we vote on electronic voting machines, repukes will rule
this country. It's as simple as that. I will NEVER vote again as long as we use those fucking machines. Why waste my time?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:36 AM
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19. Three members of the same family is too much for the American people.
I remember seeing a poll recently that said over 64% of people don't want Jeb to run in 2008.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:43 AM
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20. Jeb: the sandwich would support same-bread marriage n/t
Is this a trick? You should've asked which one has the higher IQ or more personality.
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:02 AM
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21. Jeb would win the Electoral Vote,
The Ham Sammich would win the Popular vote.... I even have a Name picked out for this.... HAMGATE!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:26 AM
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22. I don't know much about Jeb...
...but were the ham sandwich already chewed, swallowed, digested, sh@t out, neatly arranged in a pile on the White House doorstep and set alight, it would still make a better president, I'm convinced, than anyone in the Bush dynasty.

Vote the fecal former ham sandwich in '08! Restore dignity to the Oval Office! Two legs good; no legs BETTER!

Seriously, though, we won't have to make this choice. The Defense of the Presidency Act of '07 will abolish all the uncertainty caused by elections. After all, changing chief executives in the middle of an eternal war will only send mixed signals to the terrorists*.


*Under the terms of the DOPA, "terrorist" will be defined broadly to include, among others, anyone caught reading this thread.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:34 AM
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23. People Who Are Saying Jeb Couldn't Win Are High...
Hmmmm

He only starts with 282 Electoral College votes...


There are some naive people on this site...

Folks need to step out the four corners of DU and see America for what is ; a center right nation...
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:45 AM
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24. I wish this was an old style European monarchy
then he'd be plotting to kill our current King (His brother)
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:10 PM
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38. Who says it isn't check out the geneology of ** and Kerry.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:29 AM
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25. Unless people get less stupid, Jeb will win.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:51 AM
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26. It depends, will McDonald's be counting the votes? n/t
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:48 AM
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28. That's the only hope for Mayor McCheese's 3rd party bid!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:55 AM
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27. Only if it is Missouri Ham.
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RobbyRoo Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:47 AM
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29. Jeb
Jeb would probably win because he would cheat.
But I think the ham sandwich would keep us safer.

Let's hope it's a Virginia ham. We need a candidate from the south in order to compete.


http://www.cafepress.com/bushtwins

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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:45 AM
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31. Before I answer, is this a North Eastern Ham or a Georgia Ham?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:57 PM
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32. Don't forget Polish Ham!
Somehow that remark would have been a lot funnier a couple of weeks ago.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:59 PM
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33. I'd vote for Jeb if I could turn him into a ham sandwich
Otherwise, I'm all for the ham sandwich.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:51 PM
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34. Ham Sandwich has strong moderate appeal
And would bring in the 'starving' vote. But his speaking skills are lacking. Maybe if he picked something southern, like a sloppy joe, as his running mate.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:20 PM
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35. 2004 Prez Election result answered this question
We ran a Ham Sandwich against the most corrupt Prez in history and the Ham Sandwich lost, and if it wasn't for the ABB vote, he would have lost in a landslide. The Dem Ham Sandwich can not count on an ABB vote in 2008 because many progressives, this one included, will not vote for the candidate of choice from the Dem Losership Council.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:49 PM
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37. The people like Ham Sandwich
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 02:50 PM by Kipepeo
But the Machines like Jeb Bush. And the Machines have the final say.
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