How will Clark, Dean, Kucinich etc. beat this really real Rove scenario?

[BackDoorMan]

Keeping in mind the dems, with almost no major media support, to get their side of the real story out there to mainstream America...

"Victory in Iraq" Bush brings the troops home (WH projects on July 1st 2004 they will let Iraq's "puppets" govern themselves)

Bush wins election in a landslide victory. Bush brought democracy to Iraq, it was worth a few soldiers lives, no threat from Hussein ever again.
The republican owned corporate media will run with it for days, (boost their ratings) the soldiers will all say how happy they are to be home and they'll find the ones to say, "it was tough but it was all worth it to free the people of Iraq."

Bush is all smiles, his approval ratings in the polls, SOAR...everyone who doubted the little king is again laughed at and scorned as unpatriotic, non-Americans...

The media will then absolutely forget the huge mess we caused and left behind in Iraq. Must get it out of the people's minds right now, focus onto something else quickly, there's are a million things to change the headlines to make Bush look great...now it's time to win the election for our wonderful Bush...he stopped them damn terrorist...three cheers for Bush, a real compassionate, and tough American!

He'll balance the budget, fix everything else too...Yes, another four years.

And the US weapons makers, Carlyle Group, Halliburton, Bechtel will have made billions of dollars (our tax dollars) off the invasion of Iraq (so what if there's no money left for SS, education, universal health care, to cleanup corporate pollution & exploitation, etc.) "It was all worth it because now we are safer."

American OIL companies will now control the OIL in Iraq (protected by the limited military forces left behind.)

Bush gets his poll numbers inflated, pushed way up.

And all the conserative politicians and TV talking heads will tell America, now it's time my friends, to move on to something else...and Bush is our hero...Yes, Yes!

Four more year, four more years, FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

[West Coast Democrat]

1. How will Rove create this impossible scenario?

I don't see it happening

[rucky]

2. Start a campaign to urge Republicans to move to Iraq

if they're so proud of it. That's where all the jobs will be anyways.

[lovedems]

3. When we have our nominee and the GE is in full force, I don't think

it will be that easy. If we pull out of Iraq there are plenty of reasons to believe there will be BIG trouble. If our democratic candidate is capable of reminding the people about the corporate gifts, the lies that led to war, the deficits, and every other piece of ammo this administration has given us, I just don't think KKKarl can sweep it under the rug with his usual grace. This is a divided nation and not everyone will buy the hype.

Call me optimistic but when our candidate has the national spotlight, it will be up to him to keep these issues current with the public. I think it is possible.

[cthrumatrix]

4. the data is there...facts are there and more to come

O'neills book has plenty on Iraq and John Dean's book is to be explosive in Arpil

just truth and facts to expose the liar

[HereSince1628]

5. Ending the war could be bad for Bush

the US is pretty consistent in not changing horses in the middle of the stream. If the war ends the likliehood of getting rid of Bush may increase.

[BackDoorMan]

7. Excellent point...But there's alway the war in Afghanistan to exploit and

re-accelerate, in the name of now, stopping terrorism for good... (for the hard of hearing, of course I know this is all rhetoric and bullsit by Rove) all efforts and focus will on the war against terrorism in Afghanistan, since we won in Iraq, (they will say) and we are going to hunt down bin Laden, the Talaban and every terrorist responsible for 9-11, "Let's never forget 9-11..we will never give up until we hunt down every last one of them." Yah, huray! Cheers to the tough as nails Bush, go get 'em "W", the media will say...

And there's Bush's war for election.

[Fovea]

6. I do not endorse the rosy glow of this scenario

2004 is going to be a rolling s**tstorm.
Remember the photo of the last helicopter out of Saigon?
You are not going to see it this year from Baghdad.

The Islamic right has started to seriously destabilize Saudi Arabia.
Iraq will be our base of attack against the threat of violent takeover by Islamists. There is no way in hell Bush will pull out of Iraq.
I can't imagine how all this 'promoting Democracy' in the Middle East is playing in the streets of Riyadh right now, but I can guess how it plays in the palace. Don't expect a flood of cheap oil from OPEC.


Saudi Arabia does not have 3 years left in it, I fear.

Bush cannot get the U.N. back into Iraq and sustain the control of Iraqi oil. Though I think by this summer Halliburton, KBR, and Bechtel will be trying hard to break their contracts and get the hell out.

There is nothing easier to sabotage than an oil pipeline.
I am quite pessimistic about how much Iraqi oil will flow this year or the next.