Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

In case anyone is looking for all of President Kerry's military records,

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:18 AM
Original message
In case anyone is looking for all of President Kerry's military records,
including his Honorable Discharge, they're on his site at this link:

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/military_records.html



This should shut up any Freeptards of Swift*ssLiars about Kerry's military records. Just wanted to share with anyone who needs a link to Kerry's military records. I don't think President Kerry has anything to hide! WTF is wrong with these SwiftLiars? Give it a rest already! :wtf:










Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
1. Thank you!
I was just about to ask for this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:22 AM
Response to Original message
2. President Kerry.
I like the sound of that. It is such a good feeling. I think that the future will actually improve.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:25 AM
Response to Original message
3. I've got his sponsored bills and amendments
pretty impressive if you ask me.
<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/8/231624/9236>

Thanks for the military info.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:28 AM
Response to Original message
4. When I argue with them, they always say
that his medical records aren't included. They tell me that 100 pages are missing??? Heck I don't know. I just throw back that Bush has some medical records, too, and if I were Kerry, I wouldn't be about to release them until Bush clears up his missing data.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Then, I always retort back and say "Would you like somebody proding
in your private medical records? Of course you would, you support the Chimp and you're a fascists freak who does not believe in privacy!" His medical records should be a non-issue, I believe. Could be wrong, but hey, I wouldn't want somebody prying into my medical records! That's disgusting and none of their business!


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:30 AM
Response to Original message
5. Quick response to Kerry Treason Charges in WND and other RW sites
Perhaps that explains the very first sentence in the "circular" -- the one that probably best sums up the experience of North Vietnamese efforts to influence the US anti-war movement. "The antiwar movements in the US are unpredictable." From this circular -- laying aside questions of it's accuracy -- we can draw a few conclusions, not at all consistent with the "conspiratorial" conclusions drawn by the Swift Boat Liars.

1. One antiwar group received "assistance and guidance" from the NV in Paris. That group was the PCPJ.

2. The PCPJ was not "closely associated" with the other principle anti-war group, the NPAC -- as evidenced by the failure of the two groups to cooperate on a number of points, including the failure of the PCPJ to convince the NPAC to adopt its slogans and tactics, and the conspicuous failure of the PCPJ to gain cooperation from the NPAC in demonstrations to be held in May 71. .

3. Many of the slogans and tactics of the PCPJ -- those presumably advanced by the NV in Paris -- were "not successful."

4. John Kerry, in July, 1971, adopted the position of the NPAC for a “timeline” for US withdrawal, which was at odds with that advanced by the PCPJ -- suggesting that John Kerry's positions with the VVAW were also at odds with the "assistance and guidance" furnished by the NV in Paris. In other words, Kerry SPECIFICALLY DID NOT FOLLOW that "guidance" -- assuming that he ever heard it.

5. To the extent that Kerry's actions coincide with the desires of the North Vietnamese delegation in Paris, it is not because that delegation was directing Kerry, it is because that delegation was "learning lessons" from the failures of its own operatives -- those in the PCPJ – who had unsuccessfully urged “immediate withdrawal” as the anti-war position.

6. John Kerry was part of the "unpredictability" of the anti-war movement -- a movement, which the "circular" correctly describes as "spontaneous."

7. The North Vietnamese clearly wanted to influence the American anti-war movement, but they were largely unsuccessful. The anti-war movement was an American movement, made up of American citizens concerned about the actions of our government in what many regarded -- and still regard -- as a misguided foreign military adventure. They were not "communists" or 'revolutionaries' -- as evidenced by the refusal of most to adopt the "communist" or "revolutionary" slogans suggested by the North Vietnamese. In fact, it appears that the North Vietnamese made the same mistake our own flying monkeys have made. They equated dissent on the wisdom of American involvement in Vietnam with sympathy for the communists in Vietnam. It wasn't that Americans opponents of the war in Vietnam were "communists" who "supported" the North Vietnamese. It was rather a fundamental question about the wisdom of sacrificing 58,000 American soldiers to fight communists in a jungle on the other side of the world. The flying monkeys will, without hesitation, send your son to die fighting communists on the other side of the world -- no matter how dictatorial or corrupt the regime is on "our" side. Most Americans stand with the majority position of the anti-war movement. We believe in exercising a little discretion before we send our sons to die overseas. John Kerry clearly held that sensible majority position.

That brings us around to the "talking points."

This story will "hit" the media -- and will be circulated "under the radar" in private emails, etc. -- by Sunday or so. You need to be ready.

Here is your one paragraph response.

The captured documents do not show that the American anti-war movement was influenced or "guided" by the North Vietnamese. They show the opposite. The documents themselves describe the anti-war movement as "spontaneous" and "unpredictable." They show that the one organization in contact with the North Vietnamese -- the PCPJ -- failed to gain the cooperation of other anti-war groups. They show that the "slogans" and "tactics" suggested by the North Vietnamese were "not successful" -- in the words of the circular. Oh, and the documents don't mention Vietnam Veterans Against the War -- or John Kerry in particular -- AT ALL.



If you see this story in your newspaper, see it on TV, hear it on the radio, or see in your email, RESPOND TO IT IMMEDIATELY -- using the facts I have just laid out. If you can't remember the further details, just send along a link to this page. Remember, this kind of "late hit" from the flying monkeys is designed to level a charge, and not give us time to refute it -- something we can absolutely do, using their own source material. Those captured documents don't show what they claim, and you must make sure as many people know it, as soon as this story rears it's head, as you can.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. Zuni, you might want to shoot the Kerry campaign a quick email at
[email protected]! Give them a heads up?




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. Kick. (eom)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 01:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. but but but
they have a NAVY CHIEF SECRETARY or whatever it is who can testify JK had a less than honorable discharge!

Maybe the Chief will cancel due to a pulled hamstring... hmmm.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:23 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC