Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Dean's Fifty-State Strategy

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:00 PM
Original message
Dean's Fifty-State Strategy


By John Nichols, The Nation
January 16, 2004

"Despite two month of often brutal battering from his foes in the contest for the Democratic presidential nomination – or perhaps because of it – Howard Dean remains well positioned to finish at or near the front of the pack in the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. Strong finishes in those high-profile contests, which Dean identified more than two years ago as critical to what was then an "impossible dream" candidacy, ought to provide tangible evidence that the former Vermont governor's Internet-driven, decentralized and seemingly seat-of-the-pants campaign is, in fact, the real thing.


Even before anyone votes in Iowa and New Hampshire, however, Dean has already won the Jan Schakowsky primary. And that may be even more important to his nomination prospects. Schakowsky, an aggressive progressive who is one of the few grassroots organizers currently serving in Congress, does not live anywhere near Iowa or New Hampshire..."

A long article with lots of interesting views......

A SNIP...."Much has been made of Dean's use of the Internet, but traditional politics may give him the edge. He has worked the phones, sat down for face-to-face meetings and restructured his schedule to win key endorsements. In August, while the other campaigns were virtually encamped in Iowa, New Hampshire and another early-primary state, South Carolina, Dean was jetting across the country on a "Sleepless Summer" tour that took him to delegate-rich states like Wisconsin, Washington, Oregon, Illinois and New York. The combination of the Internet and grassroots politics – you can now type in your ZIP code on the campaign's website and get directions to the nearest Dean house meeting – creates a potent mix that opens the process to Democrats who are usually left on the sidelines. That, in turn, impresses Democratic officials. "From the start, the Dean campaign has been saying every state matters, and I've seen how that energizes the party base in places that aren't usually organized this early in the process," explained Minnesota State Senator Scott Dibble after signing on as one of five Dean co-chairs in that state. "While everyone else is talking about Iowa and New Hampshire, Dean is saying, 'Look, I want to get things started in your state because your state is going to matter in the fight for the nomination and when it comes to beating Bush.'"


http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17578
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
1. This is true
the nomination and eventually the Whitehouse are squarely in the Dean campaigns sight. This is about MORE than this state or that state.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
2. Well, in the first 2 states of the 50 he's sinking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. A caucus is not a poll.
I don't think Dean is slipping that much, but we will see.

Best of luck to the Kerry campaign tho'.

Welcome to DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Welcome to DU.
The caucuses are very hard to predict. We won't know until Monday night how any of the candidates will fare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. get back to me tuesday morning
thanks for kicking my thread
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I will, when Dean loses Monday night
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. we'll see
thanks for kicking my thread
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. How about if he wins?
I recall a couple of Kerry will get Harkin's endorsement threads...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. Hi threemilemind!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. Hey
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal in Ohio Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
4. Dean has a stronger presence in Ohio than Kucinich
and he is from here!!

Go Dean!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #4
19. Hi Liberal in Ohio!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kukla Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:22 PM
Response to Original message
9. You know, I'm getting more impressed with Dean after today
I had been very leary of Dean because of his stance on teh war, but after reading some information given to me on another thread, I am convinced now that I was lied to about the war so I'm finding those candidates who did not believe the story given by the Bush administration more interesting.

Thank you for this information. I'm afraid my brain is going to explode after all of the new things I've found out today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Thanks for posting this article it is a very interesting read.
Dean is by far the strongest here in MS. We are the only campaign at the University and he is very popular with former republicans.

Glad to pique your interest Kukla, Dean is my candidate, but all of our candidates are great. The squabbling around here can get to me sometimes, but we all have good intentions at heart. We all want our country to be like it used to be. I am voting for Dean b/c I think that he can make it better than it was.

There is a good article with Howard and his wife Judy in People magazine, 17 things you didn't know about Dean is hilarious. The man is a tightwad to the nth power.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Welcome Kukla
The more you read about what Dean stands for, as opposed to what others report about him, the more impressed you will become.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. If people focus on the content of his message --- he has what it takes
to bring down Bush---he's been out front fighting and not afraid to call bush out...he'll call bush a liar based on facts and documents
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. That won't play well
He needs to do extremely well amoung women to offset Bush's huge lead with men. Women don't like the kind of campaigns where people are insulting each other. Calling Bush a liar over and over again will not cut it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. last time I looked women don't want people to lie to them
truth will get bush out of office ... we are snowed by the media and somebody who is not afraid to share the truth like he has from day one
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Anger, combativeness, confrontation
None of those will win the women's vote. Trying to take the high moral ground and feeling morally superior to your opponent won't work either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lobo_13 Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. and the pickering appointment
ain't gonna play too well with women either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
threemilemind Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Inside baseball
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
23. we were lied to about the war?
I hear that a lot. Has anyone made an actual case on this? You know "Here is lie "A", Lie B" etc. Like Joe Liberman I'm more concerned about getting the terrorists , hitting them hard while we know where they are.

I hope the general toughens up HIS stance too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
16. Thanks
Great article!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
17. Kick!
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
25. Truth here:
"But it's also true that many who want to beat Bush sincerely doubt that Dean, a hotheaded candidate who is hardly consistent in his positions and who has a penchant for highly controversial statements and actions, is up to the task."

I say Dean had the early bandwagon- a lot have only been on a short while. It will be easy for them to get off of it for a man like Kerry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
27. He's energized Democrats Abroad too
The energy from Dean supporters has led Ex-pats to begin to form new country committee's. When Democrats Abroad holds it's caucus in early Feb. the turn out is going to be unmatched and this is due to grassroots energy of Deaniacs throughout the world. Australia will be participating for the first time ever, and there have always been ex-pat dems here but now we're fired up. So not only is it happening throughout the 50 states, but it is happening throughout the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:39 AM
Response to Original message
28. Kick
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Dec 22nd 2014, 07:19 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC