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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:33 PM
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A DLC Founder Endorses Howard Dean
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 01:57 PM by WillyBrandt
Two things: this is good for Dean. (Though I think she really misreads Clark and his campaign.) Also, it shows that a lot of DLCers are good folks; more broadly, Democratic centrists aren't the enemy.

The problem is morons like Al From, the current DLC head, who want to play powerbroker and are afraid of grassroods activism, and a new Democratic resurgence.

"Start with the complaints. The first is that he is too left-wing to win. Dean owes his colleagues in the primary race a big debt of gratitude on that one. When Gephardt attacked him for a Medicare position taken in the mid-1990s, it reinforced the fact that Dean is a fiscal conservative -- well within the mainstream of the successful Clinton wing of the Democratic Party. If Dean were a real left-winger, he would have called for a national health insurance plan (like Gephardt and Kucinich). Instead he has a much more realistic plan to take care of the uninsured -- and has a Vermont record on it to boot.

"If Dean were a real left-winger, he'd call for cutting defense spending and immediately removing our troops from Iraq -- as Kucinich has. But Dean understands that the fight against terror requires new, albeit somewhat different, military spending than the current Bush plans and that we can't fight terror by allowing Iraq to turn into another Afghanistan."

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpkam153626813jan15,0,1291105.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:03 PM
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6. Wow, you are way off on his record.
Do check out Dennis's record:

he voted to:

send people to jail for burning the flag
put minors in prison with adults
prevent woman from having reproductive choice

Lucky for you your guys is polling at 1%. This way the *myth* of Dennis Kucinich remains. Fortunately he has not been scrutinized in the manner that Dean has.

I know many Kucinich supporters who have Dean as their second choice. I welcome them into our fold when push comes to shove.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:37 PM
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8. I am not off about his record
He was for medicare cutshttp://www.politicsonline.us/archive/092803-howard_dean.htm
he wanted to raise the retirement age to 70 . “The way to balance the budget is for congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare, and veterans pensions...it would be tough, but we could do it.” -gov dean http://www.politicsonline.us/archive/092803-howard_dean.htm
he was pro business/anti environment Dean Set A Pro-Business Tone.
“ Stephanie Kaplan, a leading environmental lawyer and the former executive officer of Vermont's Environmental Board, has seen the regulatory process under Dean become so slanted against environmentalists and concerned citizens that she hardly thinks its worth putting up a fight anymore. ‘Under Dean the Act 250 process (Vermont's primary development review law) and the Agency of Natural Resources (ANR) have lost their way,’ contends Kaplan. ‘Dean created the myth that environmental laws hurt the economy and set the tone to allow Act 250 and the ANR to simply be permit mills for developers.’”


Dean Helped IBM With Environmental Regulations.
“Business leaders were especially impressed with the way Dean went to bat for them if they got snarled in the state's stringent environmental regulations. ... IBM, by far the state's largest private employer, says it got kid-gloves treatment. ‘We would meet privately with him three to four times a year to discuss our issues,’ says John O'Kane, manager for government relations at IBM's Essex Junction plant, ‘and his secretary of commerce would call me once a week just to see how things were going.’”


IBM Plant Biggest Polluter in Vermont.
“ IBM's Essex Junction chip plant discharged the most of any Vermont company, releasing 213,446 pounds of chemicals, or 36 percent of the 591,790 pounds released in the state in 1999. … IBM released 170,000 pounds of nitrates in 1999. The chemical is discharged to the Winooski River with the company's wastewater. That discharge is up from the company's 1998 nitrate release of 140,000 pounds.


He is so pro gun he got an a rating from the NRA


I am supporting kucinich becauee he is the only moderate running
Letting people die because they cant afford healthcare is radical
free trade is radical (read SLAVERY and the selling out of america)
keeping the bloated pentagon budget is radical
I also believe the death penalty (a racist barbaric institution)is radical
of course i dont agree totally with his record but i find it more sensible than deans
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:10 PM
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10. Half quotes, misrepresentations, and flat out false accusations...
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 05:11 PM by TLM

he wanted to raise the retirement age to 70 . “The way to balance the budget is for congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare, and veterans pensions...it would be tough, but we could do it.” -gov dean



That was an answer to a HYPOTHETICAL question about what MIGHT have to be done were a balanced budget amendment to have passed in 95. To act as if that was a policy statement on Dean's part s grossly misleading.


"“ Stephanie Kaplan, a leading environmental lawyer and the former executive officer of Vermont's Environmental Board, has seen the regulatory process under Dean become so slanted against environmentalists and concerned citizens that she hardly thinks its worth putting up a fight anymore. ‘Under Dean the Act 250 process (Vermont's primary development review law) and the Agency of Natural Resources (ANR) have lost their way,’ contends Kaplan. ‘Dean created the myth that environmental laws hurt the economy and set the tone to allow Act 250 and the ANR to simply be permit mills for developers.’”


More misleading accusations for a far far left group of folks who wanted to abuse the environmental protection laws to establish ZERO DEVELOPMENT in vermont.

Dean would not cave to them and instead struck a balance between the environment and the need to get vermont's economy going.



Dean's environmental record....

Land Acquisition Over 470,000 acres of land conserved through Dean’s leadership as Governor nearly 8% of Vermont. Properties acquired and added to the state’s holdings include important natural areas, significant waterfalls and gorges, critical wildlife habitat areas, key inholdings, access areas, recreation lands and important forestland parcels.

Storm Water Management Governor Dean pioneered a statewide program establishing permit authority over storm water runoff. Vermont’s Agency of Natural Resources partnered with local authorities in towns and cities to give storm water controls teeth.

Tough Emissions Standards Governor Dean ordered emission controls Vermont to be more stringent than those required by the Kyoto Protocols. He has worked consistently and closely with the New England states to sue the Midwestern states to reduce coal emissions.

Lead Role on Mercury As a physician, Governor Dean took a lead role in VT and at the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers on eliminating mercury within the region within 10 years.

Thoughtful Development Governor Dean provided real incentives to keep development in downtowns and kept Vermont’s scenic vistas pristine by discouraging development near highway interchanges. Established a Development Cabinet and advanced the use of permitting as a tool to promote sustainable growth.


Efficiency Vermont Created the Nation’s first “energy efficiency” utility to provide statewide strategies for conserving energy and called for increased use of renewables, farm, municipal, landfill methane generation projects. Efficiency Vermont is a finalist for Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government Innovations in American Government Award.

Founder of E-Vermont Governor Dean founded E-Vermont, recognized as one of the Top Ten Best Performing Clean Cities Coalitions in the United States. E-Vermont is an effort to explore advanced technology vehicles and electric vehicles.


The Vermont Energy Initiative — Dean’s comprehensive energy program focused on helping citizens and businesses help themselves by advocating Combined Heat and Power and distributed generation, exempting newly constructed renewable facilities from property taxes, and offering “green pricing” of power.

Net Metering — Dean initiated required net metering, allowing private, commercial, and farming consumers to offset energy bills by generating their own power from renewable resources and selling it back to the grid.

Biomass Energy — Dean created the Biomass Energy Resource Center in 2000 to aggressively promote biomass heating systems in public schools, state and commercial buildings. Dean also supported use of an existing wood-fired power plant to develop new clean-burning biomass gasification technology.

Harnessing the Wind — Under Dean, the Searsburg Wind Farm Project was initiated with a 6MW farm to demonstrate the feasibility of wind energy production in the mountainous state.


Efficiency Vermont — Vermont became the first state to implement a statewide efficiency utility. The utility, known as Efficiency Vermont, helps Vermonters invest in the most efficient technologies to meet their energy needs. During Dean’s tenure as governor, Vermont lowered its energy needs by 5.5%.

Affordable Efficiency — Thanks to Efficiency Vermont, 1 in 7 customers upgraded their electrical systems to run with higher efficiency, achieving energy savings at one half the cost of purchasing wholesale electricity.

Savings in Energy Costs — Efficiency Vermont programs enabled households and businesses to save $3.5 million in 2001, and to save 60 MWh annually — the equivalent of Vermont’s three hydroelectric dams.

Power Plant Emissions Reductions — Through efficiency programs Vermont was able cut annual emissions in all areas — 632,000 tons less CO2, 2578 tons less SO2, and 973 tons less NOX.

Award Winning Innovation — This year, Efficiency Vermont received Harvard’s Kennedy School’s Innovations in American Government Award. Some states are now using it as a model for their own programs.


Ensuring Clean Air — Dean created the Committee to Ensure Clean Air which recommended revenue-neutral “green taxes” to curb emissions and fund tax incentives for citizens to purchase clean technologies.

Committing to Climate Change Action — Dean signed the New England Governors' Conference resolution to improve efficiency in energy use and transportation in northeast. The regional plan calls for reducing GHG emissions 25% by 2012, and 50% by 2028. Dean’s Vermont Greenhouse Gas Action Plan identified policy options to reduce already low Vermont GHG emissions by 21%, increase employment by 1%, reduce energy costs by $6.2 billion, and energy use 16% by 2020.

Encouraging the Use of Cleaner Fuels — Dean actively promoted the use of natural gas over other fossil fuels, wherever cost-effective and environmentally practical, to lower emissions.


Advancing Electric and Hybrid Development — Dean’s EVermont program made VT the premier cold weather testing site for electric vehicles and fostered Compressed Natural Gas cars and filling station trials.

Investing in Mass Transit — Dean bolstered mass transit in Vermont by expanding commuter rail service, providing funds and incentives to restore bus routes, encouraging businesses of 50 or more to establish “trip reduction plans”, and constructing more park-and-rides.

Fostering Smart Growth — Under Dean, Vermont’s progressive land-use policies were protected and continue to encourage forward-thinking growth planning and development.





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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:58 PM
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3. Is Elaine a founder of the DLC?
Good to know.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:59 PM
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4. oh for pete's sake
I just saw a thread a little while ago that the DLC was behind Kerry because Christie Vilsack is DLC. (I don't even know if that's true) Now the DLC is great again. This is just insane. Vote for the person who can beat Bush and quickly put this country on course and stop all this insider/outsider upside-downer conspiracy theory shit. Because the bottom line is that it doesn't end with an election, it starts there. Whoever the President is, he's going to need us to stay active to change our communities and get noisy when things need to get passed to help us do that.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:01 PM
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5. I am not a Dean supporter
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 02:01 PM by WillyBrandt
But I like Dean. The point is that the DLC, and Democratic centrists generally, aren't so terrible. It's a few bad apples who want to play powerbroker.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:17 PM
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7. We can agree and not agree
We can agree that DLC people are not so terrible. I do not like Dean, though, and one of the reasons is that he has demonized this entire group, while exploiting them whenever it suits him.
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:59 PM
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9. As he's done with President Clinton.
eom
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:15 PM
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11. There is a lot of difference between the DLC when it was FOUNDED


and what it has become now.

I liked the DLC when it was founded, but the current crop of asses running the DLC drive me up a wall with their constant slide to the right.
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