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MinnesotaMike31 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:45 AM
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Drudge says solider to speak at Pentagon in next hour...hmmm?
What could the solider have to say?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:46 AM
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1. This is getting pathetic.....
dragging out a soldier to help save Bush's politcal life and the neocons buts!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:46 PM
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34. Thats EXACTLY what it is. Disgusting.
I expect General Clark will have more to say on that too. BTW Clark will be on Bill Maher tonight live.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:47 AM
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2. He claims he ATE the explosives in a tragic, Loony Tunes style mix-up.
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 10:59 AM by aden_nak
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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13. LOL! (nt)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:55 AM
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15. LOL!!!
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:59 AM
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23. Too funny!
this just keeps gettin' more and more entertaining.
:)
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:59 AM
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24. Rudy now blames
the Acme Explosives Company!
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:05 AM
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27. For Pete's sake don't let anybody near a piano!
If anybody plays 'Endearing Young Charms' the whole country will go up!
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:06 AM
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29. Or an Anvil!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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3. He moved them so that the Russians could have them before we went to Iraq
Makes sense.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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7. lol
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:57 AM
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18. HAHA
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Richardson08 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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21. that satellite picture must not have been very convincing...lol
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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4. read this thread...
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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5. I posted below
that he will say he moved them
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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6. OK LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT
1. First they said there were no weapons
2. Then they said the weapons were gone by the time we arrived
3. Then they said the weapons were taken by the russians
4. Now they say we took the weapons

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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:50 AM
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8. they'll just keep switching stories 'till everyone's totally confused
like they always do.
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Quadrajet Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:51 AM
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10. They took the weapons before they didn't take the weapons.
turnabout is fair play
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:00 AM
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25. BUSH FLIP FLOPS ON EXPLOSIVES!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:50 AM
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9. CNN Just Said The Same Thing...
There will be a Pentagon briefing at Noon Eastern and a soldier from the 3rd Infantry will be featured.

I'm getting dizzy with all the spin..
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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11. But of course this uniformed soldier being pushed by the Pentagon
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 10:54 AM by htuttle
...has NO political motives in giving a PRESS CONFERENCE about it, right? Just another hijacking of government resources for Bush's political campaign.

:eyes:

Wonder if Rudy G is going to come out and yell at the poor kid about it all being his fault?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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12. "We found canisters of white powder. It disappearedp GW's nose."
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:54 AM
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14. The 3rd infantry? OK, I'll wait.
But the facts still remain: This administration didn't have clue what happened to the explosives (Bush even said so) until 48 hours aftr the issue was raised. If this is true, to where were the explosives removed? Where are they now?
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:56 AM
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16. A dog to have press conference at pentagon: "I ate 'em, woof"
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:56 AM
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17. Anyone see a link for online streaming video/audio?
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Richardson08 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:57 AM
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19. took them 4 days to find this guy?
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:57 AM
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20. First the Russian took them, now our own military removed them.
But this admin. really had no clue about what happened. I do not believe anything they say. If we were supposed to have known that these explosives were missing since last year, why didn't we know last night?
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SleepingDragon Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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22. MSNBC just reported the same info. Soldier to claim explosives destroyed.
This still doesn't change the fact that:

1. There is still lots of explosive material left in Iraq that is being used to kill our troops.

2. The strategic blunder still is not sending enough in the first place to secure it all.

3. The Major Pearson presented evidently is not sure that what they destroyed was the HMX explosives. (currently being reported on MSNBC)

4. Pentegon still doesn't know where the material is.

5. Questions will still exist.

6. This is good news because it will take days (if ever) to track all this down.

7. While the Repugs spin, we win!


:toast:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:03 AM
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26. did they destroy them after the Russians moved them to Syria?
i thought rudy said they didnt do their job but now they did? I'm all cused now. <sarcasm>
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SleepingDragon Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:10 AM
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31. The first time they destroyed them they moved them, and the
second time they moved them, they destroyed them in the first place they moved them before....you get the drift ;-)
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SleepingDragon Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:49 AM
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33. Pentagon news conference raises more and more questions. HMX question not
answered

Dirita at the beginning spinning it.

1. 10,000 weapons caches, missing explosives are 1/1000th
2. No definitive conclusions
3. Units arrived in early April met by Iraqi forces
4. Initial report very incomplete
5. Some units assigned task of removing weapons at the facility
6. Weapons destroyed that day only some part of the universe of weapons destroyed.
7. Major Pearson 3rd ID Ordinance expert.
- Instructor in Maryland
- April 03 in support of "elms"?
- Maps, visuals studied
- Commander of ordinance company - lsa dogwood
- Multiple missions to clear ordinance, schools - residences, etc.
- Objective "elms" includes Al qaqa
- US forces broke down protective walls to enter the facility.
- Mission find exposed ammo that could be a threat. 9 units that could carry 33 tons of ordinance. 250 tons. a variety of ammo. Large boxes of plasitc explosives (RDX). Maybe only 3 tons.

- used captured ammo to destroy the ammo they found. 7000 tons of captured ammo

- fire in june 2003 destroyed captured ammo.

Perception that the military forces did not have a systematic approach to:
- eliminating regime
- limiting casualties
- securing ordinance

Question:
What type of ammo did you destroy?
Answer:
I'm not an expert on ordinance ID. TNT, Plastic Explosive, detination cord, phosphorus etc.

Question:
What no HMX?

Answer:
We'll have more later.

Question:
Did you see the video?
Answer:
No

Question:
Based on what the Major said, how do you determine that some of what the Major destroyed was the missing explosives

Answer: We think that some of the RDX was in the stuff that was destroyed. We don't know for sure. we need more specifics from the IAEA to clarify.

Question:
Did you go into Bunkers?
A:
Yes those that were easily accessible. Palettized boxes of cord (RDX)

q:
No percentage of what you took out that was RDX?
A:
No, we are pursuing that

q:
possible to move HDX between April 18 and May without military knowing?

A;
We did it in a day, moved 250 tons, not a major operation. didn't see hostilities.

q: can you tell us definitively that anything you destroyed was the iaea explosives?

A: I don't know (dirita steps in we do not have the definitive answer, even the number you are using is not definitive. we are trying to better understand the numbers.

q: did you see seals?

a: I went into bunkers that were exposed, I didn't see seals

q: the video shows seals?

a: we are still looking into it (dirita)

q: What date?

a: April 13th

q: what pictures did you have?

a: digital photos of boxes similar to 101st airborn

q: troops waiting for your arrival

a: not troops there (dirita 101st was there)

q: how much was left?

a: I don't know, my mission was to find easily found stuff (dirita confirms some left because the 101st found it on the 18th)

q: how you square all this with rumsfeld comment His view that the stuff was removed prior to the war. nothing else was possible. dirita - a don't remember precisely what rummy said. Unusual activity - large trucks in front of bunkers, more photos not released.

q: Is this just another potential scenario?

a: I'm trying to tell you that we don't know what happened, we are trying to better understand it we will continue to provide facts.

End of news conference






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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:06 AM
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28. Someone on another thread says the timing makes no sense.
This guy is going to say he helped blow up weapons on April 13. The Minn. video was shot on April 18. Makes no sense.

Desperation by Bush campaign.
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supervan Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:09 AM
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30. only fox turned up for the news conf
watching fox now and not exactly a full house of reporters
whahahaha
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:11 AM
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32. My bet is that CBS,ABC or NBC will debunk this within an hour
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