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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:14 PM
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LOL! Kerry camp calls on Bush to REMOVE altered AD!
For Immediate Release
October 28, 2004
Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800
KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS ON BUSH TO PULL DOCTORED AD
In response to the stunning revelation that the Bush-Cheney campaigns much touted closing ad has been exposed as doctored, the Kerry campaign is demanding that this fake ad be taken off the airwaves immediately.

Senior Adviser Joe Lockhart issued the following statement:
Now we know why this ad is named Whatever it Takes. This administration has always had a problem telling the truth from Iraq to jobs to health care. The Bush campaigns advertising has been consistently dishonest in what they say. But today, its been exposed for being dishonest about what we see.

If they wont tell the truth in an ad, they wont tell the truth about anything else. This doctored commercial is fundamentally dishonest and insults the intelligence of the American people. The Bush campaign has no choice but to take this ad down immediately and issue an apology for its latest attempt to mislead the American people.

Unless George Bush has changed its position on human cloning, its got to pull this fundamentally dishonest ad immediately.

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:15 PM
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1. Hilarious cloning reference! GREAT!!! (n/t)
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:15 PM
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2. "Doctored" in what way?
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:16 PM
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6. They clone-stamped a couple of soldiers over and over again
Apparently to replace the black soldiers in the picture. They also digitally removed Bush himself from the photo.

There are at least 5 other threads on this topic floating around, maybe more by now.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:16 PM
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8. go here
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:26 PM
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29. And they want to talk about "fake documents"?
Sorry I have been away. And none of the media has covered this that I know of. To think these idiots have power over us.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:49 PM
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45. I'm hoping some of the media is covering it now
no TV so i don't know...but that other thread made it seem like it's getting play
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:17 PM
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10. check out any of the 38 billion 'photoshopped' ad threads
for details.... ;-)
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:18 PM
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13. See for yourself
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:30 PM
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37. Thanks. And they want to take down Dan Rather?
At least HE didn't fake those documents himself.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:15 PM
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3. lol
human cloning. :-)

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expatdoc Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:16 PM
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4.  thats great!
great dig on the cloning ref.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:16 PM
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5. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (these ha's have been PhotoShopped)
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:18 PM
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14. LOLOLOLOL...my LOL have been photoshopped too! LOLOLOL
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:16 PM
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7. Yeah, and their polls are going up,
too!

They have so much bad news lately..except for disillusioned curt shilling that is(who is in for a big surprise!).
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:17 PM
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9. OMFG! Hilarious...loved the cloning line...good job JOE!
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:17 PM
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11. Tell me the cloning reference is true! This is the best story of the YEAR!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:17 PM
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12. Hahahaha
It's really funny, especially the "cloning" part -- although I don't see much point in harping about the ad. Since all they covered was Dubya, I don't see anything sinister in the ad -- I think it's bizarre they used a picture they had to doctor instead of a real one, but I think there are much better cases to be made about Bush's lies than "If they wont tell the truth in an ad, they wont tell the truth about anything else.".

Maybe somebody can point out to me what is so sinister about taking Dubya out of the picture...
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:19 PM
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15. that his campaign LIED about it at first
denied altering the picture for starters.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:19 PM
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16. I know that...
...but unlike Bush's other lies, what are the consequences of this one?

It reminds me of "Clinton lied about Monica".... Who cares?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:22 PM
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25. it's a political tactic, more than anything else
by responding, it's keeping it in the news. and all the american people will hear about is basically a "doctored ad" -- makes bushco look bad either way.


it's politics. and it's fun :-D
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:26 PM
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28. It's like the plastic turkey business.
Somebody commented at that time that a lot of people will lie if they're trapped into a bad situation (e.g. Clinton), but the Bush people lie habitually even when there's no need to and even when they have nothing to gain from it. Like there's no difference between image and reality, between truth and lies. That's what makes this significant--the fact that they didn't even have a good reason to do it, but did it anyway.
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:35 PM
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41. The point is
that it takes some of the wind out of this ad. Now instead of hearing how effective and damaging the ad is, we're going to hear, "Why the fuck would they photoshop this? Will it damage their credibility?"
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:52 PM
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46. Will it damage their credibility?"...LOL as if they had credibility
They wish they had credibility.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:26 PM
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30. Lol
Will the never learn to just tell the truth? They treat us all as if we are as bright as a turnip.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:20 PM
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19. It's Orwellian...
...if they have no compunctions about manipulating reality in such a trivial fashion, how many reservations would they have about fabrications about matters far more important? Very little it seems...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:24 PM
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27. If they fake this ad, what else are they faking?
This is actually a simple and powerful message to send to the sheeple who support chimp.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:27 PM
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33. What else are they faking?
How about the Iraq WMDs, "Russians took the explosives", 9/11 investigation, etc, etc, etc.

I think that people assume that political ads are not exactly the picture of honesty. I'm worried that it will seem weak to make a case for Bush's dishonesty by harping on a political ad which was altered in no way that discernibly benefits Bush.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:55 PM
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47. Because this is the sort of thing
Karl Rove would have a field day with if it was in a Dem. ad.

Who cares that it's a non-issue? It's pictoral proof of fakery. That's what resonates with some people.

I can talk to my Repub. dad about Bush's lies that sent us to war all I want but he won't believe it because he can't believe it (or his whole frame of the world would fall away)...but show him something small like this and it chips away at his faith...Bush falls another notch. It goes something like this: "I can see with my own eyes that they faked this photo. I wonder what else they fake/lie about?"

Nothing big, but the more it's pounded into their skulls the more it helps the scales fall away.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:06 PM
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49. I can see that, good point.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:31 PM
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51. Exactly, a Bush voter just told me he was disgusted and there is no
need for this stupidity this late in the game. Rove would pound this into the ground and McClennan would be hold a press conference spouting off his doughboy mouth about how this is a political trick. Well, guess what, Bush STILL wouldn't admit to a mistake!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:19 PM
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17. The press release is great, but this,
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 04:21 PM by NightOwwl
Unless George Bush has changed its position on human cloning...

is priceless!
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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:19 PM
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18. This is the moment
I'm in love with the Kerry campaign right now. This race reminds me of Hopkins/Trinidad, where Hopkins dominated the fight the whole time, but it was just so impossible to believe that Trinidad wasn't eventually going to land a big shot - and then in the closing rounds, Hopkins landed a flush hook and knocked Trinidad out.

All who call themselves Democrats should tip their cap to Kerry and his team next Wednesday. You may not love their politics, but they know what the fuck they're doing; a welcome change from this maladministration.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:20 PM
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20. WAY too funny. Its hard work telling lies.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:21 PM
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21. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! CLONING! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

:kick:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:21 PM
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22. Whatever it takes!
:evilgrin:
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:21 PM
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23. That's bestest statement ever I read for a while!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:21 PM
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24. Just. Fucking. Brilliant.
Man, these guys know how kick a guy in the nuts! I LOVE IT!!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:27 PM
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34. Whatever it takes!
:thumbsup:

:evilgrin:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:33 PM
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40. Great pic
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 04:34 PM by Debi
I just used it as my screen saver (campaign come to our office each night to use our phones...they'll really get a kick out of it)

THANKS :dem:
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:22 PM
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26. No press
I am not seeing anyone pick up on it yet.
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vet_against_Bush Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:27 PM
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31. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee nt
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:27 PM
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32. KA-BOOM!!!!!
That's the sound of Bush's "closing argument" ad campaign going up in smoke.

Ouch!

-MR
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vet_against_Bush Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:28 PM
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35. The power of DU, we did it! got there attention now media must grab it!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:28 PM
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36. Joe Lockhart is great!
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:30 PM
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38. I agree with many of you...
This PS'd photo is really not all that important, but many will see and hear "Doctored AD"... which could really hurt Bush. At least I hope they hear and see it. I know some in the media are already making references to it.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:17 PM
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50. Exactly. It's not the pic that's important, it's the lies about it.
Even on CNN, when Mehlman finally explained what happened, do you think most of the country will understand 'Photoshopped' and all that? No. They'll hear 'altered' and 'changed' and 'doctored'. They'll also remember the denials that the photo was changed in any way at all before the B*sh campaign finally told the Photoshop story. THAT is what the general public will take away from this little story - nagging concerns about this admin.'s dishonesty over the unimportant issues. Kind of makes it hard for them to believe Junior when he swears he's telling the truth about not knowing any explosives were missing, doesn't it? :evilgrin:
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:32 PM
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39. Yeah that's it, just keep taking it to them. n/t
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Gut Check Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:35 PM
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42. repuke's heads must be exploding with all the news this week :) nt
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masonfl Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:36 PM
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43. Is it just me or are these guys making the mistakes we usually make?
I'm just amazed. If W loses, Karl Rove's image as the genius campaigner is going to lose some of its glow.

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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 04:38 PM
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44. Yeah? Photoshop THIS!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:01 PM
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48. Sorry, the head Bush photoshopper doesn;t do well with crowd shots
:evilgrin:

Whatever it takes!
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