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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:41 PM
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Q: Is this election going to be as close as all these polls indicate?
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 04:41 PM by battleknight24
How accurate are these polls anyway?


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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:42 PM
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1. No
The big news story will be WTF happened to all the polls. Kerry is more ahead than people think.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:43 PM
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2. Bingo!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:48 PM
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8. If they want any credibility, the pollsters will have to stop
skewing their polls by weighting them heavily toward the GOP on Sunday, at the latest.

I just drove by the early polling place here in central NM, and the line was all the way down the block. Kerry signs outnumbered Bush signs 15-1, and that includes in a very upscale neighborhood. This is NOT good news for Bush, and it's even worse news for polling companies that want to keep it credible.
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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:52 PM
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11. Isn't that a "Battleground" state?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:44 PM
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3. I actually believe that both a Kerry landslide and a Bush landslide...
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 04:45 PM by slavkomae
...are more likely than a close election.

The most likely, by far, being a Kerry landslide.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:46 PM
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4. Yes, it's going to be as close as 2000
A real nailbiter. There's absolutely no evidence at this point to suspect otherwise.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:47 PM
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5. Nope
Based on the 2000 polling results, Gore received on average 6 points more than major polls showed.

I don't think their methodology has improved in four years.

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:59 PM
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20. I agree ... think about it this way ...
Do you KNOW OF anyone who voted for Gore in 2000 who has decided to change their vote for Bush come November 2nd?

The answer for me and all other folks I know is a resounding "NO"!

Remember, gore won the popular vote by a half million.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:48 PM
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6. The polls will be neck-and-neck until election day
and then the election will show a Kerry win by 3-7% of the popular vote.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:48 PM
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7. It won't be close - Kerry wins in a landslide
The polls don't take into account all the newly registered voters of whom 85% are in favor of Kerry.
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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:49 PM
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10. Really... where did you get that data...
... I don't doubt you... I would just like to know where you heard about this...


Peace,


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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:49 PM
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9. It will be a fast knockout and over by midnight
...a landslide victory for Kerry/Edwards. If you haven't picked up on the tale tale sign then you haven been paying attention, you'd been lead around by the nose by the media cable whores.
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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:54 PM
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12. What makes you so confident? You're not worried about voter fraud...
... on the other side?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:17 PM
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17. There will be voter fraud, no doubt about it! The mass will overcome
the cheating that will take place. 'Tis a two way street we're on, not a one way with no hope. Trust me!
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:55 PM
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13. Kerry in a landslide if they push this like hell!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:00 PM
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14. I don't think it's even close
Word on the street is that bush is a goner. I haven't met one person that can admit to supporting him and alot feel the country will be destabilized by his election.
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liberDave Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:02 PM
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15. Ouch
Ouch. From Yankees Fan.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:04 PM
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16. we aren't too subtle here, are we Dave?
Welcome to the DU. :hi:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:52 PM
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18. Too many signs pointing to Kerry to believe polls
Aside from the polls, which have a vested interest in a close race, evidence of an upcoming Kerry win abound:


Newspapers and periodicals are leaving Bush in droves for Kerry

All of us know republicans who will vote for Kerry. Few of us know democrats voting for Bush.

Serious numbers of republican diplomats and career military have come out for Kerry

Some traditional red states are surprisingly close

Turnout will be high. New, motivated voters are younger and tend democratic

If one stops to remember the past 4 years, the number of disasters, blunders, and scandals is unprecedented and is continuing at an accelerated pace

Huge crowds at Kerry rallies. Pathetic fake crowds at Bush rallies

The rest of the world, not too much different from us, supports Kerry by wide margins

Lies, distortion, campaign dirty tricks, voter supression are signs of Bush desperation

Giving up on a platform plank (gay unions) just before the election in an effort to reach the center is a sign of desperation.

Many stories (mine included) of seeing more Kerry signs than Bush signs in traditional conservative areas

The DNC ability to compete with the RNC in fundraising is a telling sign. Far fewer people contribute to the RNC, but they contribute greater sums per capita. That the DNC was competitive in fundraising is testimony to the high number of supporters, not the depth of their pockets.


Just don't pay attention to the polls and it all seems clear!

And even if you accidently see a poll or two, note that the trend is Kerry, note that republicans are oversampled, see that Bush approvals are awful, and remember that polling companies and media outlets both have vested interest in close, dramatic, soap opera elections.
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:56 PM
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19. There's a firm possibility of a definite maybe
I can't make it any clearer than that.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:01 PM
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21. No it will not...GOTV
We have the votes and then some...but we have to make sure that folks actually vote...they don't call it GOTV for nothing....


what are YOU doing to GOTV???
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:06 PM
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22. In my opinion, no. And the polls are WAY off.
They were off in 2000, too -- when they predicted an easy Shrub win of something like 4 or 5 percentage points. And we all know how that turned out.

Now, the polls are even worse in their unexamined (or possibly deliberate) bias towards Repug voters. This just means that if Bush is ahead by only a little, that lead doesn't exist. Where the polls say Bush and Kerry are tied, you can take it to the bank that Kerry is in the lead. And where they say Kerry leads? That lead is sure to be even bigger than indicated.

Keep hope. Work to get out the vote (GOTV). The final tally won't be as high as it could be if all the votes were counted fairly and every voter allowed to vote in the first place -- but DESPITE their cheating and vile crimes against democracy, we shall prevail.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:08 PM
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23. These polls mean nothing. Television fodder. Bullcrap.
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