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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:06 PM
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"Who's Attacking Who?" - must read article at today's Liberal Oasis
Edited on Tue Jan-13-04 01:07 PM by ProfessorPlum
I hope this isn't a duplicate . . .

<snip>
Let’s put something in perspective.

Dean attacked Gephardt in a TV ad on the war.

Gephardt attacked Kerry, Edwards, Dean, and Lieberman for their past trade positions.

Kerry attacked Clark for not being a true Democrat, and for his recent lobbyist past.

Clark attacked Dean for proposing to re-regulate certain industries, and for his lack of foreign policy experience.

Edwards attacked Dean over his Confederate flag comment, and for his ‘98 comment knocking the Iowa caucuses.

Clark attacked Edwards for using Gen. Hugh Shelton as an adviser.

Dean attacked Kerry for lacking “the courage to stand up” on some issues, and on his farm policy views.

Edwards attacked Gephardt for voting for fast-track trade legislation.

Dean attacked Clark for flip-flopping on the war, and for not being a true Democrat.

Gephardt attacked Dean, Edwards and Kerry, saying they support policies that lead to “slave labor and sweatshops”.

Lieberman attacked Clark and Dean, saying they would have kept Saddam in power.

Edwards attacked everyone for attacking each other.

This, of course, isn’t even a comprehensive list.
<snip>

There is much more, with links to all the above "attacks", and some much needed perspective, at http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/011104.htm#011304

Good luck to everyone, and your respective candidates. Remember, the ultimate winners will be us when Commander Bunnypants and Snear attend the inauguration of our new, Democratic president on January 20, 2005.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:08 PM
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1. Hee Hee
Ain't that rock & roll?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:10 PM
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2. Hey there PP.
Haven't seen your brilliant musings in awhile. Glad to see you back.
:hi:
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:17 PM
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5. Hey, Ripley,
thanks - it's good to be seen once in a while. This is indeed one of my least favorite times - to see these men (and woman), whom I like very much (holy Joe excluded) having to compete with each other, when I'd rather see them all come together like some 9-pieced Voltron, form a super-Democrat, and blast W with their Peace Ray.

This forum makes me a bit quesy, too. I'm looking forward to the day when we have our nominee.

Thanks again - it's good to see you too.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:20 PM
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7. Queasy is right! I have to drink Pepto in here.
I don't spend a lot of time here anymore. It's gotten to the point of futility with some disruptors, and there sure are a lot of them here.

Have a great day!
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:10 PM
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3. Yah, but...
He started it.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:18 PM
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6. LOL
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:11 PM
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4. So everybody is a pin cushion, right?
We can dispense with the "ma, they're pickin' on me" pity party? I sure hope so.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 01:54 PM
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8. Kick
What? No one wants to get on the "Can't we all just get along?" (or "can't we all just not get along?") bandwagon? No comments for the great L.O.?
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:00 PM
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9. Pretty funny
I guess it's Primary Season. I can't wait for the dust to settle and we can all attack * and not each other. Thanks for the post.
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:13 PM
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10. "the ultimate winners" What do we win?
A weeks vacation to sunny Cancun?!

Or the continued illegal occupation of Iraq, not cutting military spending, the Patriot Act entact, NAFTA continued?

WE WIN!!!

:shrug:

TWL
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 07:50 PM
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13. THAT's the spirit
oh, wait . . .
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 02:14 PM
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11. The writer makes a big mistake
Edited on Tue Jan-13-04 02:16 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
by saying "It will be near-impossible to check the accuracy of all of them."

actually it's not that hard to check the accuracy of these attacks. Perhaps the reason the writer wants to obscure the difference between false and valid attacks is that under cover of saying 'everybody attacks' they repeated a lie spread by the Dean campaign.


Dean didn't attack Kerry 'on his farm policy views'. What the Dean campaign did was lie about how Kerry voted on the 'Freedom to Farm' bill.

Kerry’s campaign did not make the same mistake as Bradley did, waiting days to respond. In an e-mail sent to reporters Tuesday, the campaign claimed the "Gore-inspired attack" was flat-out wrong. Kerry argued that, unlike Bradley, he did support the flood spending — all of it. Congressional records show that Kerry voted for $4.8 billion in flood money and for an amendment sponsored by U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, to add $1 billion more.

"Dean’s distortion of the record is wrong and Dean should apologize," Stephanie Cutter, a Kerry spokeswoman, said Tuesday.

Kerry’s vote, though, came only hours after he and Harkin were on differing sides of procedural votes tied to the additional disaster aid, which is what Dean’s campaign cited. Asked about those votes, a Kerry aide said the issue was the inaccurate statements put out by the Dean campaign.

On the Freedom to Farm bill, Kerry actually voted against the Republican-authored legislation, which tried to wean the nation’s farmers off government subsidies. However, he also expressed sentiments in 1996 that were sympathetic to the legislation’s major thrust, according to remarks circulated by Dean. "Few government programs cry as loudly for reform," Kerry said at the time.

Kerry’s campaign argued that Dean was on the attack to mask his poor record on farm issues, noting a loss of dairy farms in Vermont during his tenure as governor there. Dean’s campaign said Kerry was merely giving lip service to rural issues and that his values do not reflect those of Iowans.
http://www.iowapulse.com/2003/story81.html


Dean is indeed just trying to obscure his own poor farm policy record.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 07:05 PM
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12. kick
:kick:
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 01:55 AM
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14. Dean increased the number of farm markets from 20 to 41
this gave family farmers a place to sell their goods. Dean seems to have a good record on farming.
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