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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:27 PM
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Whatever happened to Kitty Kelley's book The Family?
I guess since it was anti-Bush, the press wasn't allowed to cover it. Didn't have the impact on the race I was hoping it would.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:29 PM
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1. #6 on NY Times Best Seller list (nonfiction) and
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 05:30 PM by spooky3
Amazon sales rank=269; not bad a month after release.
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jljamison Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:40 PM
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5. just like the swift boat vets book...

i think the reality is that much of the stuff in it is truly unverifiable. Also, the 48 or so percent of people in the US that support Bush are just (a) not going to believe it anyways, (b) don't care even if its true, or (c) forgive Bush as an ex-User, and admire him for reforming himself, blah blah.

The difference though is that Kitty kelley didn't get a bunch of rich democrats to form a 527 PAC over it.

At the time it came out I hoped Kerry and the democrats would stay clear of it, and am glad they did.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:44 PM
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8. Not true at all. She documents everything.
I am reading it now,and it is an excellent book. There is just so much to cover.

I did not realize that not only Prescott Bush, W's grandfather, but also another grandfather, Bert Walker, were involved in financing the Germans during Hitler's regime.

Oh, there is just so much there. It is picture of a highly dysfunctional family.....and our white house resident is a result of that family dysfunction.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:07 PM
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18. That's what I'd heard...
War Profiteering without a conscience..runs deep in their history and shared psyche. Several months ago in a chat room (discussion was political) someone told me to do a search on ?prescott Bush and SRA (satanic ritual abuse) I didn't even believe it existed. I'd forgotten all about that. i'm going to do a google now and I'll let you know if I find anything. One of the family members of this chatter (unknown to me) had been a victim of SRA and was so repulsed by the Bush family...I can't wait to read the book, but for me this will be a Kitty first and last I bet!
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:55 PM
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14. Excuse me, but have you read it?
I have and nearly everything she says in that book comes from the Bush's own words via interviews, diaries, biographies, etc. Most of the rest are quotes from Bush family friends, former roommates, business, and political associates. A very small percentage comes from interviews with those who might be considered "hostile" and Kelley and her attorneys claim that their statements are irrefutable. When she states her own opinion, it is clear and the reader is free to agree or disagree with her conclusions.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:31 PM
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2. Skillful Bush campaign damage control
They're far better at manipulating the press than we are.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:48 PM
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11. It helps that they own the press
And that what little part of it they don't is lazy and stupid and pussy-whipped.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:32 PM
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3. It's In The Front Racks Of Kmart Store
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:33 PM
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4. it certainly fell off the Earth, didn't it?
I'm too nervous about the election to try to read it know... when he LOSES I will pick up a used and cheap copy on Amazon.
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jljamison Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:40 PM
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6. much like Unfit For Command...

i think the reality is that much of the stuff in it is truly unverifiable. Also, the 48 or so percent of people in the US that support Bush are just (a) not going to believe it anyways, (b) don't care even if its true, or (c) forgive Bush as an ex-User, and admire him for reforming himself, blah blah.

The difference though is that Kitty kelley didn't get a bunch of rich democrats to form a 527 PAC over it.

At the time it came out I hoped Kerry and the democrats would stay clear of it, and am glad they did.

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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:43 PM
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7. It's on my shelf, but it's lower priority in the queue.... eom
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:46 PM
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9. Why? It is excellent. Well-documented.
I am really finding it interesting and disturbing.
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CMO Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:49 PM
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12. They talked about it for a while...
on air America but no one took Ms. Kelly seriously. Al Franken had her on his show and he wasn't very nice to her. I think they think she made the stuff up....but the swift boats vets for lies made their stuff up and that book received so much coverage it was unbelievable. I thought Kerry would lose the race because of that crap! People are so gullible.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:14 PM
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16. huh? do you have any links?
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:53 PM
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17. I heard that interview and Franken and her were having a good laugh.
I don't think he was mean to her at all. I have read Kitty Kelley's book. It is well written and documented as previously stated. She was on many talk shows despite Bush Sr telling his buddies at the networks to not have her on. This action of Bush Sr validates what she says in the book. Of course you would have to read it to know anything, and you didn't.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:46 PM
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10. An election late... and a dollar short...
This was a book that would have hurt him during 2000... It has no effect in 2004.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:52 PM
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13. But it didn't hurt Bush
Nothing hurts this lucky bastard. He could French-kiss Satan while Osama Bin Laden buttfucked him on national TV, and 45% of the American people would cheer. Chris Matthews would point out how manly and dominating he is, Sean Hannity would figure out a way to blame the liberals, Rush would blame Bill Clinton, and Paula Zahn would wait for her turn.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:10 PM
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15. Aha, I have it.
The several threads on this book were puzzling me. I see now. It is good to make it sound unimportant. :evilgrin:

It is just long, involved, and thoughtful. People are reading it, and the Bush family does not come out on top.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:11 PM
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19. TWO things....
while containing much good info it is:

a) BORING!!!!!!!! it takes HUNDREDS of pages to get near *'s life and while factual, it's just a huge snooze, esp. if you've already read the Kevin Phillips *Dynasty* book.

b) ALL the juicy bits were released in advance of publication and there wasn't all that much. yawn. been there, hyped that.

:hi:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:21 PM
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20. It's a best seller
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