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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:24 AM
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Wow- rasmussen has race tied...
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 10:25 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
i still have problems with rasmussen's methodology and zogby's tactics but i'm impressed nonetheless...

have fun fellow duers...

www.rasmussenreports.com
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:28 AM
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1. hmmm
very interesting...


Is there a trend...

Zogby and Rasmussen have it even..

The trend is your friend...


Freepers love Rasmussen... They will be crapping and pissing themselves today... Good day for the folks at Depends...
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:29 AM
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2. It's like gravity..bush always trends downward
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:31 AM
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3. he does come from the primordial ooze...
nt
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:12 AM
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4. I'm getting the sense Bush had a couple of really good polling days
Thursday and Friday, not because he did well in the debate but perhaps because Repukes were happy the debates were over and they were energized. Kerry may be benfiting from his debate performance now, as it took awhile for people to digest it. After the first debate, I think the full effect in Kerry's favor wasn't felt for close to a week.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:14 AM
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6. I have no idea of what is going on...
and i have done post grad work in political science...

I felt the same way in 2000... In every election prior to that and going back to 1976 I "knew" who the winner would be at this time...
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:14 AM
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5. I've been seeing Kerry is trending ahead in the battleground states
and really, that's all that matters. I'll take that!

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TruthWins Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:29 AM
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7. These Newspaper endorsememts sure don't hurt
30 of them for Kerry on Sunday with a handful of papers switching from Bush in 2000 to Kerry this time. Plus a number of conservative papers have chosen to not endorse because they don't want to endorse Bush but can't bring themselves to endorse Kerry. None of the papers that have endorsed Bush so far endorsed Gore in 2000, so no switchovers to Bush. (A lot of papers bought the "uniter not a divider" line last time and are bringing up Bush's failure to deliver on that promise.)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:33 AM
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8. I Think Certain People Purposely Vote Different From Endorsements...
It's the "I ain't going to let the librul media tell me what to do."
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:42 AM
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9. Oddly USA Today says Chimpy is up by 8 points on the front page
So who knows what the hell is going on.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:43 AM
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10. I Think I Know That The Race Is A Pickem...
That's what I know...
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:53 AM
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13. This race is not even for five reasons
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:55 AM by Perky
1) Late deciders (only about 5% this election) go 2-1 for the Challenger.

2) Polling does not take into account 1st time registered aboters nor their enthusiasm.

3) Pollsters do not call cell phones...Urban voters are going wireless.

4) * is honestly maxed out...Polling of the incumbern at this point tends to be hyper accurate on a state by state level.. that is the survey accurately reflects within one to two percent of what the incumbent is actually going to get. The challenger always makes it closer than the polling actually reflects.

5)THe polls at the state level are showing no momentum (honestly) for either candidate at this point. But the flat line still shows Kerry in the aggregate about a point ahead in the 18 battleground states.

All these idicators suggest a Kerry Win in the PV and the state by state tracking of Key battleground states suggest that Kerry should win PA and either OH or FL (if not both). If you win 2 out of three you win the the EV.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:54 AM
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14. I Hope You're Correct
nt
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jimdeedler Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:44 AM
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11. We need to start voting on this poll 2 weeks togo!!!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:48 AM
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12. Remember The Rove 4%...
For those who missed the RNC memo that was circulating around here this weekend, there was an article that claims the onmipotent one thinks those polls are off as well and that his internal show that they will need to win by 4% (not sure if this is in each state or overall) to have a chance. My take is that will make it close enough to win comfortably...3 makes it stealable.

I agree with those who say the story of this election is how disconnected the politicians, pollsters and pundits were with the mood of the nation. They tried to manipulate and control it, but are now so out of touch they have to manufacture news to spin it to seem they still are on top of things. This is another example.

These pundits detest the internet and what we do...since we ARE the grassroots. DU is thousands of "correspondents" in every state in the nation, we know what's happening.
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