Is Kerry a contender with polling numbers like these?

[sfecap]

Zogby Gallup CBS NBC/WSJ ABC/WP Newsweek
Dean 28 27 23 25 20 24
Lieberman 8 12 10 7 12 12
Clark 6 12 10 11 7 12
Gephardt 8 7 6 11 6 10
Kerry 4 7 4 5 7 5


Kerry is the one rove really wants!

[WillyBrandt]

1. Why don't you post positive threads?

Or something more than cheapshots like the message above?

[Scott Lee]

3. Surely you don't think those abysmal polling points are irrelevent?

Sir - tell me that you know an election is all about support that translates into votes?

Do you seriously want to put a candidate against Bush with support like Kerry is showing?

[WillyBrandt]

4. They are relevant

But it's one in a line of cheapshots. There's another one about Kerry losing a pundit supporter. And another posting of an anti-Clark screed by right wing hack Jonah Goldberg.

And, dude, the General Election is different than the Primary. You don't have to worry about a candidate who does poorly in the Primaries fighting aganist Bush, because s/he won't get there by definition. (Notwithstanding votesplitting and superdelegates...)

[sfecap]

16. But...

The anti Dean article by Robert Novak posted by the Clark supporter from the same source was OK?

[WillyBrandt]

17. No, it was not.

I didn't see the post, but if what you say is right, then it's wrong too.

[sfecap]

21. For your perusal:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=9196

[virtualobserver]

5. he probably should have rephrased it " Dean can't win, but is in the lead"

"Kerry trails badly but would easily defeat Bush"

[Demobrat]

11. What's cheap about polling numbers?

?

[sfecap]

13. Gosh...Dean can't win...

...I guess it's time to start looking at the alternatives, huh?

[WillyBrandt]

15. Um, no

Why not "Dean leads the pack"? And why must this be the successor post to an anti-Clark cut-and-paste job and "Did Kerry lost his last pundit ally?"

There was nothing reflective nor analytical in your post. It was an empty potshot, preceeded by a string of the same.

[sfecap]

20. "Dean leads the pack"?

Wouldn't that be seen as "gloating"?

[WillyBrandt]

22. Possibly, but it would be a positive take on favorable poll numbers

Instead of another bead on the string of negativity, instead of yet another empty potshot.

[bitchkitty]

28. Hee, hee, but he does, doesn't he?

Not that I would gloat or anything. I get upset over the attack threads, but every time I see a poll, his numbers just keep inching up!

[KittyWampus]

2. The Numbers Will Be Very Fluid... Don't You Think?

[virtualobserver]

6. Maybe.....

But it looks like Dean vs. Clark for the title.

[Padraig18]

7. Again?

Oh, man. Ask yourself something, OK--- is this post really productive? *sigh*

[WiseMen]

8. If you had any Insight you would Know Kerry /Clark only FEARED by ROVE

The scuttlebut is that either Rove engineered Dean's success OR
Dean is God's blessing on the faithfull George.

[Padraig18]

9. Scuttlebut means gossip.

And is just about as accurate... :eyes:

[virtualobserver]

12. yes, rove fears the candidate who is plummeting.....

he's afraid that he'll fall on him.

[Scott Lee]

23. An excellent example of putting the BUTT in scuttlebutt

Which is the human exit hole most likely to have produced this rumor.

[HFishbine]

10. I'd say this

With all the crap directed at Dean as of late, it's not difficult to undertand why posts like this appear. But Kerry supporters are sincere and posts intended to make people feel bad really should be beneath us. If not now, soon.

I'd also add that polls before the primaries can be turned on their heads by real votes.

Finally, if it were my candidate at 4%, I'm not so sure I'd jump to another guy before a single vote had been cast. I think I'd probably keep fighting (although I might do it by trying to pursuade rather than attack, but that's just me.)

[cindyw]

14. I love this. When Kerry was leading national polls, all I heard here was

national polls don't matter. Now that Dean leads and Kerry trails, they mean everything.

Anyway, I like having low expectations on my candidates side.

[sfecap]

19. Kerry was leading? When?

Polls are polls.

Is Kerry viable?

He's in single digits.

He's mortgaging his house.

Could he beat bush with numbers like these?

[mb7588a]

26. He has plenty of money in other places to take care of the house,

but that money couldn't get to his campaign as easily. What's the big deal? Better his money than the taxpayers', imo.

[oasis]

18. I know plenty of democrats. None of them consider Joe Lieberman a winner.

Zogby's likely having dinner with Joe's staffers. Gore's rejection of Joe supposedly netted $250,000. That'll pay for a few Martinis.

[Northwind]

24. According to CSM Analyisis (Clark Supporter Method)

542% of those polled think the universe would implode if Clark were to leave his bedroom tomorrow.

[Spider Jerusalem]

25. As much so as any of the other 4 non-front runners.

I suggest that you look up what "margin of error" is...the pollint numbers for the second through fifth place candidates are ALL within the margin of error. THat being the case, calling ANY of them out of the running is incredibly STUPID and shows a tremendously poor understanding of how polling works.

[zulchzulu]

27. Iowa numbers are pretty close

Kerry is within striking distance of Dean and could pull a strong second in Iowa. The momentum would change from there.

Watch and learn.