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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:51 AM
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Hopsicker: Porter Goss and 'the boys'
Edited on Mon May-08-06 10:25 AM by seafan
Porter and 'the boys': Goss made his 'Bones' on CIA Hit Team

By Daniel Hopsicker
May 6, 2006
MadCow Morning News


Deposed CIA head Porter Goss was once a member of the CIA's super-secret Operation 40, an assassination squad which roamed through North and Central America during the 1960's.

Along with a number of men whose names became famous and whose lives and careers comprise a large part of America’s Secret History, Goss appears (see a comparison) in the historic photograph at right, which also appears on the cover of "Barry & 'the boys': The CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History."



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Coupled with his close proximity to the terrorist hijackers who used his Congressional District in Charlotte County as one of their main bases of operations, this fact virtually shouts out for closer examination during the post-mortems dissecting his tenure as CIA chief.

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The product of a patrician Connecticut upbringing, an elite preparatory school and Yale University, Goss entered the high-stakes espionage game being played out between the Florida Keys and the coast of Cuba after the CIA-backed coup against Castro collapsed at the Bay of Pigs.

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Although the photo was available at the time of his confirmation as head of the CIA, the major media showed no inclination to press Goss on the matter. In fact, the party line rang out everywhere.

"Rep. Porter J. Goss has disclosed precious few details of his CIA employment from roughly 1960 to 1971,” reported a profile in the Associated Press. Reuters called him a “mystery man,” and said he had been “close-mouthed about his past.”

“He worked in Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Mexico-tumultuous countries during that decade of the Cold War,” Reuters reported.

During a 2002 interview with The Washington Post, Goss joked that he performed photo interpretation and "small-boat handling," which led to "some very interesting moments in the Florida Straits."

He acknowledged he had recruited and run foreign agents and said he would be uncomfortable traveling to Cuba but wouldn't say more.





Goss: CIA resignation 'one of those mysteries'

May 6, 2006

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Porter Goss said Saturday that his surprise resignation as CIA director is "just one of those mysteries," offering no other explanation for his sudden departure after almost two years on the job.





And the mystery deepens....
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Spoonerian Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:45 AM
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1. Nothing to see here.
The Washington Post told me that the Goss firing is all about a re-shuffling between the power factions that control the military industrial complex.

Was it that the "civilian" controlled murder brigades were giving way to the guys that wear the spiffy uniforms with all the bling-bling? Or did they say it was the other way around? Or maybe the guys that collect the statistics and file away all of the "data," are blaming the CIA's death squad division for dirtying the "intelligence community's" image. (I love to say "intelligence community" whenever I can. It makes me feel smart like those women on those Sunday morning news shows.)

Anyway, this Hopsicker guy is obviously crazy. If there was anything to this, the AP and the NY Times would be all over it.

Porter Goss is really just a kindly public servant from sleepy Sanibel Island who could have been a captain of industry had he chosen, but instead served his fellow citizens, rich and poor, by working in our civilian "intelligence community" for over 4 decades.


From Hopsicker's article:

The sensitive nature of the picture was confirmed by a person who had known and worked with Seal, who incidentally had been the inspiration for the hit song "Secret Agent Man," by his buddy Johnny Rivers in the 'mid-60's.

The man, also the executor of Seal's estate, reacted with unconcealed shock when first shown the picture. “Where did you get that?” he demanded. “I didn’t know there were any… Where did this picture come from?"

“Yeah, Barry was Op Forty,” Jerry Patrick Hemming confirmed. “He flew in killer teams inside the island (Cuba) before the invasion to take out Fidel.”

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That can't be Porter Goss, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez, and Frank Stugis in that picture. CNN and FOX would have told me if it was true.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:39 PM
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2. Obviously not suitable for general discussion
And quite irrelevant to any current developments.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:51 PM
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5. Neither are all those old Cubans
they keep busting lately with big caches of guns, grenade launchers and C4 explosives. Just like back in the old days.

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KJF Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:01 PM
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3. Now I don't mind...
... the DCIA playing high stakes poker with top-notch prostitutes and contractors who are then awarded million-dollar contracts, even though they lack the relevant experience (but what does the CIA need bottled water for? You're not going to frighten anybody if bottled water is an integral part of every covert op). Indeed, I would be almost disappointed if he didn't do so, but to use the Watergate Hotel for the parties betrays a lack of respect for historical precedent. I'm glad he's gone.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/415304p-350961c.html

It was better in the good old days when the DCIA was too busy assassinating the president to bother about bottled water. What has the CIA come to? You're never going to catch Osama lugging a crate of Evian about...
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ConspiracyTheorist Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:39 PM
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4. Where was Goss on 911?
On the morning of September 11, Pakistan's Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" behind the 9-11 hijackers, was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new_revelations_on_911.htm
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:53 PM
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6. While George Bush parked his butt
in a 2nd grade classroom in Goss's district.

Just another one of those coincidences I suppose?

BTW: Welcome to the Dungeon :hi:

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ConspiracyTheorist Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:06 PM
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7. Coincidence!! :)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:08 PM
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8. Of course
it's all just a coincidence.
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greenman2 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 12:12 AM
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9. Chossudovsky - theres a newer take on this- Graham




May 12, 2003 by the Los Angeles Times
Graham Alleges a 9/11 'Coverup'
Democratic Florida senator, running for the presidency,
says intelligence failures are being kept secret, endangering Americans
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0512-04.htm

now the bit about grahm above doesnt say much, sounds like hes just poking at bush
so he can gain a brownie point ot 2
and who better to release "classified doc" that could be "damaging"

he will ony release what he wants
i think grahm might have got caught up in something,
maybe he is trheatening to release a can of worms ?

but i found this interesting...

Early August 2001: Government Informant Warns Congressmen of Plan to Attack the WTC
Randy Glass, a former con artist turned government informant, later will claim that he contacts the staff of Senator Bob Graham and Representative Robert Wexler at this time and warns them of a plan to attack the WTC, but his warnings are ignored.
Glass was a key informant in a sting operation involving ISI agents who were illegally trying to purchase sophisticated US military weaponry in return for cash and heroin. He later claims that in July 1999, one ISI agent named Rajaa Gulum Abbas pointed to the WTC and said, “Those towers are coming down.”
Senator Graham later will acknowledge that his office had contact with Glass before 9/11, and was told about a WTC attack: “I was concerned about that and a dozen other pieces of information which emanated from the summer of 2001.” However, Graham will say that he personally was unaware of Glass’s information until after 9/11. In October 2002, Glass will testify under oath before a private session of the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, stating, “I told I have specific evidence, and I can document it.”
August 28-30, 2001: US Politicians Visit Pakistan and Discuss bin Laden

Senator Bob Graham (D), Representative Porter Goss (R), and Senator Jon Kyl (R) travel to Pakistan and meet with President Pervez Musharraf. They reportedly discuss various security issues, including the possible extradition of bin Laden. They also meet with Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan. Zaeef apparently tells them that the Taliban wants to solve the issue of bin Laden through negotiations with the US. Pakistan says it wants to stay out of the bin Laden issue.


The Washington Post reveals that FBI agents have questioned nearly all 37 members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees about 9/11-related information leaks. In particular, in June 2002 the media reported that the day before 9/11 the NSA intercepted the messages “The match is about to begin” and “Tomorrow is zero hour.”(see September 10, 2001) The FBI have asked the members to submit to lie detector tests but most have refused.


The administration bitterly complains about some leaks out of a committee, but meanwhile leaks abound about secret war plans for fighting a war against Saddam Hussein. What’s that about? There’s a bit of a contradiction here, if not a double standard.’” Later the search for the source of the leak intensifies to unprecedented levels as the FBI asks 17 senators to turn over phone records, appointment calendars and schedules that would reveal their possible contact with reporters. Most, if not all, turn over the records, even as some complain that the request breaches the separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches. One senator says the FBI is “trying to put a damper on our activities and I think they will be successful.” In January 2004, it is reported that the probe is now focusing on Sen. Richard Shelby (R). He is never charged with any crime relating to the leak. In November 2005, the Senate Ethics Committee will announce they have dropped a probe of Shelby, citing insufficient evidence. Inquiry co-chair Sen. Bob Graham (D) will write in a book in late 2004 that, at the time, he guessed “the leak was intended to sabotage efforts. I am not by nature a conspiracy theorist, but the fact that we were hit with this disclosure at the moment we began to make things uncomfortable for the Bush administration has stuck with me. Over a year later, I asked Congressman Goss (R) whether he thought we had been set up. Nodding, he replied, ‘I often wonder that myself.’”

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/item.jsp?item=a0801glass



heres some snippets,
its a long page...

White House Nominee to Head the CIA
has Dubious Links to the Terror Network
by Michel Chossudovsky

Two weeks before 9/11, Porter Goss, the White House nominee for the CIA Director of Intelligence was being "briefed on the growing threat of al Qaeda" (WP, 5/04/03) by a Pakistani General who "ran a spy agency notoriously close to Osama bin Laden and the Taliban." (WP, 5/18/02)

Following George Tenet's resignation as Director of Central Intelligence at the CIA, the Bush administration immediately pointed to Rep. Porter Goss, as its handpicked nominee.
Porter Goss, a Florida Republican and former CIA operative, is chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. He also chaired, together with Senator Bob Graham, the Joint Senate House Committee, on the September 11 attacks.
According to the White House, "the rush to name a replacement" was driven by "worries" of a possible terrorist attack on America in the wake of Tenet's untimely departure.
Yet if the real objective is to to make "America safer", why then did President Bush nominate an individual who is known and acknowledged to have dubious links to the Islamic terror network?
Amply documented, Porter Goss had an established personal relationship to the Head of Pakistan Military Intelligence (ISI), General Mahmoud Ahmad, who according to the Washington Post "ran a spy agency notoriously close to Osama bin Laden and the Taliban" (Washington Post, 18 May 2002).
According to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the ISI has over the years supported a number of Islamic terrorist organizations, while maintaining close links to the CIA:


The 9/11 breakfast meeting was described by one press report as a "follow-up meeting" to that held in Pakistan in late August 2001, barely two weeks before 9/11.
"Official denials notwithstanding, Pakistan has provided the Taliban with military advisers and logistical support during key battles, has bankrolled the Taliban, has facilitated transshipment of arms, ammunition, and fuel through its territory, and has openly encouraged the recruitment of Pakistanis to fight for the Taliban....

"Pakistan is distinguished both by the sweep of its objectives and the scale of its efforts, which include soliciting funding for the Taliban, bankrolling Taliban operations, providing diplomatic support as the Taliban's virtual emissaries abroad, arranging training for Taliban fighters, recruiting skilled and unskilled manpower to serve in Taliban armies, planning and directing offensives, providing and facilitating shipments of ammunition and fuel, and on several occasions apparently directly providing combat support....

"Pakistan's army and intelligence services, principally the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), contribute to making the Taliban a highly effective military force." ( http://hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm#P350_92934 emphasis added)

In other words, up to and including September 11, 2001, extending to December 2001, the ISI had been supporting the terror network.

And that was precisely the period during which Porter Goss and Bob Graham established a close working relationship with the ISI chief, General Ahmad. The latter had in fact "briefed" the two Florida lawmakers at ISI headquarters in Rawalpindi, Pakistan:

<"Senator Bob Graham's> first foreign trip as chairman , a late-August <2001> journey with House intelligence Chairman Goss and Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, focused almost entirely on terrorism. It ended in Pakistan, where [ISI Chief} Gen. Ahmed's intelligence agents briefed them on the growing threat of al Qaeda while they peered across the Khyber Pass at a then-obscure section of Afghanistan. It was called Tora Bora. The trio also visited Ahmed's compound and urged him to do more to help capture Osama bin Laden. The general hadn't said much, but the group had agreed to discuss the issue more when he visited Wa
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greenman2 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 12:37 AM
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10. opppsss
somehow it left out part of the post,
anyway this
goes a bit deeper than the Prisn Planet article...

Mysterious September 11 Breakfast Meeting on Capitol Hill


some snippetts about Goss, and funny pics..

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just humorous pics..
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