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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:00 PM
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4 Star General FIRED before "nuke terror drill" set for August 17
Key General fired as nuke terror drill set for Aug 17

News is flying in regard to the nuclear terror drill set for this month. It is feared by informed researchers that an actual nuclear detonation may be piggybacked on the drill, as was the modus operandi in the 9/11 and 7/7 inside jobs.

As reported at this site, the drill involving a nuclear warhead being smuggled into Charleston, South Carolina is to involve the Atlanta-area FEMA office and be run out of Fort Monroe, Virginia. Today, the four-star general in charge of Fort Monroe was fired. Anonymously-sourced and speculative reports on the leading alternative media websites posited General Kevin Byrnes was fired for attempting to prevent the drill from going live. (See Lehrman/Physics911.net, Szymanski/Arctic Beacon, Jones,Watson/PrisonPlanet, Skolnick/Cloak&Dagger.

Now a Washington Times report, also anonymously-sourced, highlights the flimsy basis on which he was fired -- adultery. Not the Jeff Gannon kind of military adultery popular in the White House; but involvement, while separated from his wife, with a woman in a separate command. It also turns out Rumsfeld tried to chase him out the military three years ago. Looks like he finally found a pretext.
snip

http://www.globalnewsmatrix.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2159

Fired for "adultery"...now compare this to the crap in Iraq.

Maybe he didn't agree with what he saw...
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:04 PM
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1. Hmmmmm.....is this anything like "American Hiroshima"....cuz....
....that didn't exactly pan out did it?

"news is flying"..."anonymously sourced"..."speculative" = Red Flag.

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:51 PM
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12. There were many other dates; "gourds of ashes"
-- suggested as good ones for "American Hiroshima".

August 6-9 was just the closest one, and makes sense because it was the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima.

But there were a couple of other dates posted as possible.

And then, if these are possibilities coming out of someone's head, it isn't as if they say they know when it's going to happen. There are reports that OBL would like to inflict such a thing on us, and if I remember correct kill -- how many million Americans? -- I cannot remember, except that half of them should be children, according to OSL.

Of course, this is all conjecture anyway. But I don't think anyone should use the fact of its not happening on 6 August to think it isn't going to happen.

Anybody familiar with the Hopi prophecies on the "gourds of ashes"?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:58 PM
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21. Here is a link...
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:06 PM
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2. Another link from Northern Command
FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here’s the scenario…A seafaring vessel transporting a 10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?



Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.



Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV’s response to a nuclear detonation.

Some of this year’s objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.



The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time. The senior leadership felt that it was more important to accomplish training instead of losing up to a day and a half in travel time, said Paul Deflueri, J7 Lead Exercise Planner. “This will allow us to still meet our training objectives,” he said.

Some external participants may work with JTF-CS during the exercise.

“We’re trying to get representatives from FEMA Region IV as well as representatives from South Carolina Emergency Management Division and active duty soldiers from the (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive) Consequence Management Response Force to play the role of task force units,” Defluri said.

http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.showstory&storyid=C9BFBBAC-F3CA-BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:13 PM
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7. I've heard about the drill....but as for an actual nuclear detonation....
?????
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 04:06 PM
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15. I hope those Christian Exodus idiots move to South Carolina PRONTO.
Oh - sorry, that was mean of me.

:evilgrin:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:06 PM
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3. This story needs to grow some more legs.
I want the MSM to KNOW we are onto this rigged 9/11-style attack BEFORE it happens, this time.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO ABIDE A NUCLEAR WAR ON IRAN!! Americans will lock arms and be the biggest force this republican administration has to deal with.

:kick::kick::kick:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:07 PM
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4. Nah....won't happen.
South Carolina is a Red State. Government sponsored terrorist attacks are reserved for Blue States, such as 9/11.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 04:06 PM
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16. Bye bye, Seattle.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:09 PM
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5. And it placates the culture of life hypocrites while promoting war.
This administration just disgusts me.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:13 PM
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6. Tinfoil
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/13/politics/13general.html

General Disobeyed Orders to End Affair, Officials Say

By DAVID S. CLOUD
Published: August 13, 2005

WASHINGTON, Aug. 12 - A four-star general relieved of his command this week for adultery was ordered last January to break off the affair but continued to have contact with the woman, two senior Army officials said on Friday.

A major reason the general, Kevin P. Byrnes, was dismissed as head of the Army Training and Doctrine Command was that the inspector general found that he had violated the direct order from the Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case is still being adjudicated.

Army officials disclosed the details of the inspector general's inquiry to explain the unusual decision to relieve a four-star officer with a distinguished record.

(More at url)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:16 PM
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8. Dissenting
If anything can make the Washington Times look credible, it's crap like Szymanski, Skolnick and Prison Planet. I'd just as soon get my news from The Onion as any of those "sources".

In Bush's America, where the Air Force Academy engages in proselytizing, it should be no surprise that a four-star general would be relieved of command for banging his girlfriend while separated from his wife. That would be a lot less surprising than the Bushies approving the detonation of a nuclear device on US territory -- and in a red state, no less.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:22 PM
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9. post #2 is from the Northern Command web site
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:57 PM
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13. So what?
Ok, there's going to be a training exercise at Fort Monroe. Excuse me, but I don't see anything suspicious about that in and of itself.

If you're right and I'm wrong, I'll eat crow -- as soon as I regain my appetite; like most people, I will be feeling very, very sick in that event.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:30 PM
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11. Maybe my tinfoil is too tight these days, but watching as brave men who
speak against the malAdministration suddenly give contrite apologies for having spines, I keep asking my self: What threat could make them back down so fast?

Sure, files are kept and most people could be blackmailed, but still there is too much backing down to the junta.

Have wondered if they do not threaten to harm a congressional district in some really horrible fashion to assure cooperation from many who were vocal in opposition then suddenly silent.

Would not put anything past the insane criminals of the junta. They have already done so much that they will never be taken down alive. And they have demonstrated that life means nothing to them, so long as it is not their lives in the equation.

There has to be some military brass still in place with the brass to remember they serve the Constitution, nation, people and office of the President but not just any damnable fool who sits in a particular chair in a particular office. The Hawks in the five sided building must be ever alert and ready to purge to protect themselves from real servants of the nation.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 03:26 PM
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10. I don't think Rabid RW Repug Senator DeMint of SC would take kindly
Edited on Sat Aug-13-05 03:27 PM by KoKo01
to a nuke detonating and taking out one of America's most beautiful and historic cities. I also don't think that the Head of GE who owns a Mansion on one of the nearby resort islands along with many other wealthy globalist CEO's and retired high ranking Military, would take kindly to a stunt like that.

Unless they plan to detonate it in Virginia where the command center is, then I can't imagine how this could be a possibility.

I don't think this Administration wouldn't try something...but the location wouldn't make any sense in this case.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 04:03 PM
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14. I thought Fort Monroe was a defunct base
Well, I don't mean de-activated, but basically just an administrative site. My mom used to come and go there for church (as recently as a few months ago) and has never been pressed for id.

Yet, I keep reading about Ft Monroe here and there lately. What gives? Anybody here know?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 05:33 PM
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19. What if that is the area that the device will be unloaded, but...
then it will be transported to a different location and detonated?

Generals have committed adultery for as long as there have been generals...Commanders in Chief have also.

I think it's a wild story, but I couldn't have believed a lot of things I've seen happen since 2000. Things like, the US jumping into a preemptive war status for the first time in the history of the country. For over 200 years the country had always maintained a defensive posture, but Bush changed that.

We have an unstable government(CiC)with it's/his finger on the button! I rule out NOTHING!

I do know one of the ten four star generals still left in the Army and I can't believe that he would knowingly, go along with something so insane, but it may be out of the general officer's hands. Remember that Dictators and would be Dictators often overrule any advice the generals may offer. Hitler would be a classic example! Also, never lose sight of the fact, that the people running the show here in the US think that their way is the way every swingin' dick on the planet should live! If you're not with them you're against them... Look at the next crop of soon to be four star generals waiting in the wings! People like the Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin.

General Seeks 'Satan' Speech Probe

(CBS/AP) A top Pentagon general has requested an investigation of his church speeches casting the war on terrorism in religious terms, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday.

Several Islamic and religious freedom groups and foreign officials criticized Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin last week when reports surfaced of his comments during several speeches at evangelical Christian churches. Boykin said the enemy in the war on terrorism was Satan, that God had put President George W. Bush in the White House and called one Muslim Somali warlord an idol-worshipper. more...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/16/attack/main578471.shtml



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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 04:49 PM
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17. There was a TV movie in the 80's about a nuke in Charleston, SC
It was done as a fake news report alla war of the worlds about anti nuke protestors with a nuke onboard a submarine. THe protestors didn't mean for the nuke to go off but in the flick it does.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 04:54 PM
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18. "Special Bulletin"
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 06:52 PM
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20. And we know what fans the BFEE are for 80's fiction...
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:05 PM
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22. General Riggs (3 Star) fired for adultery
a short while back (couple of months) - and other things supposedly. Any connection anywhere
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 07:22 PM
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23. Ft. Monroe is where they kept Jefferson Davis after the Civil War
Isn't it like a southern holy site or something???? Anyway, chill out. This is going to be done in order to entertain us during a dull, no news month when our great leader is resting from his hard work so that we don't forget THE TERRORISTS ARE GOING TO KILL YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN AND THEN KILL YOU AGAIN!!!....sigh, just another day and another fuck with moron's heads so they will vote repub over and over and over with another made for tv spectacular!!!!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 10:24 PM
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24. Be sure to read through these parallel threads as well - VERY SCARY!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4340706
Thread title: CONFIRMED: There IS more to Gen. Byrnes firing and reporters are working

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4337284
Thread title: General Kennedy on General Byrnes - "Something is Amiss"

Are they purging potential whistleblowers before another staged domestic attack? Read these two threads and you will wonder. August 17 is the date of a planned "nuclear terror drill" in the area where Byrnes was.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 10:57 PM
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25. Well Dammit!
Robert Jordan won't be able to finish the Wheel of Time series, which he's been writing for well over a decade now.

If Charleston gets nuked, that is.
Bummer.
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