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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 09:03 PM
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PETITION OBAMA ADMIN TO: Appoint and fund an independent prosecutor ... to investigate ... 9/11.
 
we petition the obama administration to:
Appoint and fund an independent prosecutor and impanel a public grand jury to investigate the crimes of 9/11.

Bring the questions concerning what happened on 9/11 into the judicial process where an independent prosecutor, the power to subpoena, and the risk of prosecution for lies can be used to publicly seek answers to why the first 3 steel superstructure buildings in history fell symmetrically at near free fall speed into their own footprints in New York on 9/11/2001 killing 3,000 people. In addition, notify all current/former federal employees and contractors that failure to respond truthfully and completely to questioning will--in addition to any criminal penalties--result in loss of employment, cancellation of pension benefits, and/or voiding of any employment contract. Further, prosecution for lying or refusing to testify for any reason will not be defended by the government.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/appoint-and-fund-independent-prosecutor-and-impanel-public-grand-jury-investigate-crimes-911/
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:58 AM
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1. Wow. I underestimated how many signatures there would be. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:26 AM
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2. We could start a pool on this one
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 01:30 AM by jberryhill

Or go head to head on other petitions.

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/immedi...

Immediately Ban the Deadly Videogame Known as "SkyRim" for The Safety of America's Youths.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:13 AM
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3. Yep, comparisons like that are revealing. Working link:
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cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:33 AM
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4. Truthers should get their story straight first.
So now they again claim that all three buildings "fell symmetrically at near free fall speed into their own footprints" (None of that is even true. I guess these truthers have never watched a video of the towers collapsing!).

I thought they were now claiming that the messy collapse and large footprints of the two towers was evidence of explosions.

And if such an investigation was ever completed, the truthers would take the negative results as evidence of an even a greater conspiracy. Of course few in government have any interest in playing the stupid truther games.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:07 PM
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7. Funny
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 04:09 PM by BeFree
Some people are scared that a real investigation takes place.

What is it yall want to keep under wraps? Why keep hiding behind the republicans?

Are you too going to claim "bushco is innocent", or not? I'll take no answer as a "NOT". So then, why run your mouth against investigating bushco?
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:16 PM
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8. "why run your mouth against investigating bushco"
So you have no interest in investigating 9/11, you want an investigation of "bushco"... Since when does a real investigation have a foregone conclusion? Does not sound like much of an investigation to me.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:20 PM
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9. Is bushco innocent?
What are you afraid of?
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:27 PM
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10. of what?
"bushco" is guilty of lots of crimes, they have admitted to many.

Now, back to the issue at hand, why do you want an investigation of 9/11 with a foregone conclusion and not a real investigation? What are you afraid of?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:34 PM
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12. afraid bushco is not innocent?
Bring it on. I know bushco is not innocent when it comes to 9/11.

How guilty they are is the only question.

Why are you against a new investigation?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:36 PM
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:38 PM
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14. Why are you putting words in my mouth and avoiding the question?
Why do you want an investigation of 9/11 with a foregone conclusion?

Or are you only interested in playing your game of "put words in peoples mouth and accuse them of being bush supporters"?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 10:22 AM
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20. Joe writes this from a few posts ago
"So you have no interest in investigating 9/11"

Which is ascribing words to me, and which the readers here know to be absolutely without merit or any basis of truth, and then he goes on to then say:

"Why are you putting words in my mouth and avoiding the question"

And all I can do is wonder what Joe's agenda is.

Someone else here on the forum has claimed Bushco is innocent, and others dance and dance and dance around the question.

What is it they are afraid of? Anyone know?
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 11:32 AM
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21. reality check
No one here has "claimed Bushco is innocent," full stop. We all think you know this.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 11:39 AM
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22. Still cherry picking quotes? Why are you afraid to use all of what I said?
Why do you want an investigation with a foregone conclusion? Why are you afraid of a real investigation?
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 02:20 PM
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25. What is 'BUSHCO"
and what are you saying they are guilty of when it comes to 9/11?
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cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:44 PM
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15. What do I have to be scared about?
Do you think I'm part of the conspiracy?

Bush isn't "innocent", but he's innocent of the ridiculous claims of the truthers.

Truthers can't even come up with a plausible alternate scenario on how 9-11 went down. They just conjure up objectively false claims as evidence of some larger conspiracy, such as: the towers fell into their own footprints at near free-fall speed.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:17 AM
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5. "We demand a vapid, condescending, meaningless, politically safe response..."
I didn't know whitehouse.gov had a petition section. Pretty feeble.

I can't find the petition quoted in the OP. Was it deleted? Although the Obama administration isn't authorized to fund special prosecutors or impanel grand juries, I'm not sure this petition was more worthy of deletion than several of the others. Yes, I had to facepalm at "the first 3 steel superstructure buildings in history" before I even reached the "own-footprint" canard -- so it's not really a loss, even to the Truth Movement. (And then there's this: "Further, prosecution for lying or refusing to testify for any reason will not be defended by the government." Somehow I don't think that came out quite as intended.)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:35 PM
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6. One of the problems with the "vapid and condescending" stuff
Is that some of these petitions have less thought than kids letters to Santa.

Many of the petitioners seem to have not the faintest notion of what powers the president does and does not have.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 06:51 PM
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17. yes, a lot of the petitions are quite awful
I find the idea of that site pretty gimmicky, although conceivably in time it could evolve into something more useful. So I thought that petition was funny -- but not because I think the administration is somehow unfairly trivializing the petitions.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:33 PM
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11. "The petition you are trying to access has expired"
"The petition you are trying to access has expired, because it failed to meet the signature threshold."

"To cross the first threshold and be searchable within WhiteHouse.gov, a petition must reach 150 signatures within 30 days."
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:27 PM
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16. thanks -- I lacked the requisite patience and/or ingenuity to track that down n/t
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:10 PM
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18. SCREENCAP of petition page - I didn't know it would be inaccessible after it expired.
 

 
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 01:06 AM
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19. Well, certainly DU'ers didn't get to see it -- and imagine limited exposure overall???
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 12:18 PM
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23. But I thought there were thousands of building professionals at AE911Truth ready to support...
things like this?
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 01:24 PM
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24. No no..
AE911Truth abhors things like this, since it'd mean an end to Richard Gage comfy career choice. He'd go back to having design high school gymnasiums and the like, were it not for the steady income from his followers, and the various pet projects being backed by his organisation.
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