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OtherSideTeam Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:34 PM
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New JFK book proves Dick Cheney, not Mark Felt, was Bob Woodward's Deep Throat... And...
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 03:38 PM by OtherSideTeam
From Amazon:

Product Description:

In 1974, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein published All the President's Men, the real-life whodunit that introduced Deep Throat to the American people.

A young presidential aide turned confidential informant, Deep Throat had provided the young Washington Post reporters with enough insider information about the Watergate break-in to force President Richard Nixon from the Oval Office. As a condition of receiving the information, they promised not to reveal Deep Throat's identity until after his death.

In the summer of 1999, Bob Woodward dropped in on a retired FBI official named Mark Felt at his home in Santa Rosa, California. During that visit, Woodward convinced Felt to publicly assume the role of Deep Throat

By any cursory examination of the facts, Mark Felt was not Deep Throat. Felt, in fact, had never been a presidential aide of any kind and was fifty-eight years young at the time of the break-in. Bob Woodward, however, had become desperate to close the books on Watergate.

The real Deep Throat, you see, had recently decided to run for high office. A few loose ends had to be tied down before the 2000 presidential election, so Bob made the extraordinary trip to Santa Rosa to cut a deal.

Against Them not only explains why Woodward tried to close the books on Watergate in the summer of 1999, but it explains how and why Alexander Haig, Bob Woodward, Donald Rumsfeld, and Richard Cheney used their bogus Deep Throat story to cover up the John F. Kennedy assassination in the wake of the Watergate break-in.

This is the book Americans have been waiting for since November 22, 1963.

http://tinyurl.com/74eaneo
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:36 PM
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1. Link? Title?
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OtherSideTeam Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:37 PM
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2. Oh
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:38 PM
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3. Cheney? That would require a conscience.
Cheney does not have one.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:40 PM
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29. True -- one of the most unlikely suggestions every made -- !!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 11:05 AM
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30. Hardly. It would only require a self-interest in pretending to have one.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 PM
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4. not
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:41 PM
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5. Yeah right.
"All those who believe that, stand on their heads!" -Col. Blake
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:41 PM
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6. I'm going to go on a limb and say this 'proof' will be pretty weak
Sounds like bullshit to me. What's his documentation for this claim?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:42 PM
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7. It IS documented!
The voices documented it! :crazy:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:53 PM
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8. I don't believe it. It would not fit his character. Cheney admires crime.
He's a psychopath through and through.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 03:59 PM
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9. What was in it for Cheney back when he allegedly was Deep Throat?
I have no doubt that Cheney would go deep undercover to talk about someone else. However, he would do it only if it somehow helped him. What was in it for Cheney?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:00 PM
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10. yeah, I doubt that
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:00 PM
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11. More believable than 'Against Them' was the movie about giant ants, 'Them!'
Even James Arness in a hokey sci-fi pic is more credible than this flaky story about Darth Cheney's interest in getting the truth out. :rofl:

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:01 PM
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12. I would be interested to know the sources of this material...
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 04:26 PM by AntiFascist
I read a lengthy article in the "Asia Times" once that explained in detail that one reason Nixon was allowed to be brought down, with the assistance of Bush Senior - then head of the Republican Party, was because he was getting dangerously close to negotiating peace between Taiwan and Mainland China. Neocons wanted to maintain and foster the conflict, if for no other reason than the fact that China was a cheap source of firearms to be used in future conflicts, for example in the Middle East. This would be keeping in character for Cheney.

On edit:
I should mention another reason Nixon was brought down, according to HR Haldeman, was because he threatened to expose Richard Helms' involvement in the JFK assassination, if the CIA did not give him full control. Another reason for the CIA to bring him down:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1...

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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:02 PM
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13. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheney was the one who pulled the thrigger. What a bastard. I hope god
gets that murder.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:03 PM
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14. google the author.....nada...it's a fraud
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 04:06 PM by spanone
google the book....nada
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:03 PM
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15. From the book's intro: "Nothing in this book is reported as fact and the author is a fraud."
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 04:07 PM by Atman
That is the first sentence of the introduction to the book. I went to Amazon fully intending to purchase this, but wow. The intro goes on to explain that "...because the truth is closely guarded by those with firsthand knowledge, the author is precluded from satisfying any journalistic standards of fact." He admits that he really bases it on little more than suppositions. I think I'll hold off on this one.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:18 PM
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19. Hmm...in reading the first couple of pages, it does sound pretty fascinating.
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 05:10 PM by Atman
Maybe I'll buy it from Amazon along with some grains of salt.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:13 PM
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27. self delete
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 05:15 PM by Atman
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:34 PM
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21. Yeah, the old "I can't prove it because of the huge conspiracy" line.
Yup, bullshit.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:52 PM
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25. Some other red flags I noticed...
Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 04:54 PM by Atman
The book has no publisher, no ISBN number, and not even a valid copyright notice. The title page says "Copyright (c) 2011," but doesn't name the copyright holder as required. The author's name is listed separately on the page. And while it is sold by Amazon, it doesn't come up if you search for it. I only foind it using the tiny URL listed above. Something very odd about this book.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:04 PM
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16. If that's true, why, then, did Bob Woodward willfully participate in a conspiracy?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:11 PM
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18. Hasn't it come out that Woodward was a CIA asset? n/t
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:26 PM
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20. Didn't know that... I guess I haven't been paying attention
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:40 PM
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24. Interesting info can be found when you search for it...

Found on the internet:

"For almost four decades, under cover of his supposedly objective reporting, Woodward has represented the viewpoints of the military and intelligence establishments. Often he has done so in the context of complex inside maneuvering of which he gives his readers little clue. He did it with the book Veil, about CIA director William Casey, in which he relied on Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, a rival of Caseys, as his key source. (Inman, from Texas, was closely identified with the Bush faction of the CIA.) The book was based in part on a deathbed interview with Casey that Caseys widow and former CIA guards said never took place."
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:35 PM
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22. No. Not unless you believe crazy conspiracy theory websites. nt
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:55 PM
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26. Oh? and what about Ben Bradlee?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_C._Bradlee

In 1952 Bradlee joined the staff of the Office of U.S. Information and Educational Exchange (USIE), the embassy's propaganda unit. USIE produced films, magazines, research, speeches, and news items for use by the CIA throughout Europe. USIE (later known as USIA) also controlled the Voice of America, a means of disseminating pro-American "cultural information" worldwide. While at the USIE, according to a Justice Department memo from an assistant U.S. attorney in the Rosenberg Trial, Bradlee was helping the CIA manage European propaganda regarding the spying conviction and execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg on June 19, 1953.

Bradlee was officially employed by USIE until 1953, when he began working for Newsweek. While based in France, Bradlee divorced his first wife and married Antoinette Pinchot. At the time of the marriage, Antoinette's sister, Mary Pinchot Meyer, was married to Cord Meyer, a key figure in Operation Mockingbird, a CIA program to influence the media.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 02:02 PM
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31. One of Ben Bradlee's closest friends as a child was Richard Helms
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Tom Ripley Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:39 PM
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23. His "past" in Navy Intelligence, perhaps?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 04:05 PM
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17. Also, Felt didn't admit to being Deep Throat until 2005, and the book doesn't call DT a "young
presidential aide."
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 05:16 PM
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28. Wow, surprised to find this one end up in the dungeon.
NOT.

:rofl:

I'm at the part in the Amazon sample where the author demonstrates that DEEP THROAT is actually an anagram pointing to Cheney.
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