Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Just Watched Farenheit 9/11

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 07:50 PM
Original message
Just Watched Farenheit 9/11
I know, old documentary. But just now got around to it.

So.... all I have to say is that for those here who argue there is no proof or evidence of bushco involvement in 9/11, the next thing you need to do is watch that documentary.

You may never post here again once you do. Leaving the rest of us to carry on in bringing justice to our country.

Now just go... and watch it.
Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. Here's someone that disagrees
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
2. What "proof or evidence of bushco involvement in 9/11" does it present?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. saw it
how does it show BUSHCO(whatever that is) involvement in 9/11?
and this..."Leaving the rest of us to carry on in bringing justice to our country."
you sure are doing a good job at that!!!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. ROFLMAO (no text)
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
terrafirma Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
5. Will you hurry up
And deliver the justice already?!?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #5
28. If you would get out of my way
... and quit being an obstruction, it would be easier. Hell, you could even join? But then, you might be one of those who thinks bush is innocent?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. Current TV is running some of Moore's documentaries -- did they run Fahrenheit 911???
They've been doing "Bowling for Columbine" --

but haven't seen them playing "SICKO" or "Fahrenheit 911" --

I've seen them all -- but will always watch them again if they're on --

Own most of them, as well --



Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I dunno...
I picked up a dvd and a player the other day.

Moore is careful to not directly accuse bush of being involved, but any thinking person who watches the documentary will come away with the gist of the story that bush and company did everything they could behind the scenes to make sure the date was the biggest benefit to them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. If Moore believe bush was behind 9/11, why did he say this?
"I want to point out that Barack Obama took two years to do what Bush couldn't do in over seven. That's the difference between STUPID in charge and SMART in charge. STUPID pursues two reckless wars, lets OBL escape from Tora Bora, keeps looking for him in caves and invades the wrong country. He bankrupts us to the tune of $1.2 trillion for the Iraq War (it will eventually actually be over $3 trillion), and worse, he cost us the lives of almost 5,000 of our troops, not to mention hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan and, after all that, he STILL couldn't bring the perp to justice. In fact, in 2005, Bush closed down the CIA station that was devoted to looking for bin Laden! What does SMART do? He sends in a small elite strike force, no troops are killed, and the perpetrator is stopped for good."

and this:

But before leaving to go to the former World Trade Center site, I turned on the TV, and what I saw down at Ground Zero was not quiet relief and gratification that the culprit had been caught.

and more is there... And not a single thing that would lead anyone to believe Michael Moore does not think it was OBL behind 9/11. Read it yourself:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/som...
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Well, Joe...
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 07:15 PM by zappaman
Obviously, you are not a "thinking person".
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. heh, I guess not
I have to learn to listen to the things people mean and not the things they say. heh, too funny :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
deconstruct911 Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #9
46. Looks like a CG eh:
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. Just getting a DVD player?
Welcome to 2000. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. LOL! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 06:47 AM
Response to Original message
7. Saw it in the theaters the first day of release.
I had been posting here for a couple of years before, and I posted here after.

19 Muslims hijacked 4 planes and flew them into three buildings and a field in Pennsylvania. That's what happened.

Keep working for justice in our country. Your efforts to convict the United States of this act is counter to that worthy goal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. That's just wrong, bolo
It is not the US that needs to be convicted, it is bushco. You know that but you feel that you have to twist things? Why is that? Do you really feel bush and company is innocent? That they really had no involvement in the runup and in the way the aftermath was handled? That they should just walk free? Surely you don't, so why in the hell would you even post anything that goes against bush and company being held responsible?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. No, it is not wrong.
Bush and company were running the United States. You want to blame the United States for something Al Qaeda clearly did.

In other subjects, you do good work. On 9/11, you're counterproductive to your other worthy goals. None of those worthy goals rely one iota on 9/11 Truth. The instant you drop 9/11 Truth, you will become a more effective advocate. That's what I said.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Well
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 06:36 PM by BeFree
As soon as you can admit that bushco is not innocent is when I will listen to any of your advice, bolo.

To be clear, I have always wanted a real and thorough investigation and I've yet to see my wants served. You have done nothing for what I and millions of others who seek justice deserve. You could easily join in seeking justice, yet you do not. Indeed you fight against us.

The instant you stop your mindless opposition, you may gain some credibility.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #20
21. In the 9/11 attacks, Bushco is innocent. Plenty of other crimes to nail them on.
Please stop playing silly games. I'm not defending Bushco. I'm defending reality and truth. Bushco didn't commit the 9/11 attacks anymore than they raped 10-year-old kids in the Penn State locker room. Saying that doesn't make me or anyone here an advocate for the Bush administration, yet still, STILL, these many years later, you persist in these silly games.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. "....not defending bushco"?
Then what does your statement: "bushco is innocent" mean?

To a normal thinking person, stating that someone or something is innocent is a defense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Does anyone wonder why....
....your advice is not taken? Eh, bolo?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. I wonder to this day why you
can't explain what Bushco means.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. That would involve answering a question
Good luck getting blood from that stone :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Innocence is the default position.
It has nothing to do with defending Bush as a person. Lacking any evidence, it is safe to declare Bush innocent.

And with the ridiculous claims made by the truthers, the certainty of Bush's innocence even grows. If the truthers had real evidence, they won't have to produce bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Bwahahaha
You think bush is innocent? Bwahahaha.

F'n crazy shit, dude. Just F'n crazy.

cpwm17..writes: "...it is safe to declare Bush innocent."
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. So you believe in declaring guilt without evidence?
You believe in guilty without a trial when someone claims innocence? You believe in condemning those that support those rights? Sounds like exactly what the repugs do... How interesting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. What bullshit
There has been not trial, but of course bush should have a trial.

Just watch Moore's F9/11 for the evidence that bush needs to be put on trial. See, the way it works is: prosecutors figure a person s guilty and then they put them on trial. Guilt before innocence.

So... the question is, very simply, should bush face a trial? Or not.

Real easy question.

Anyway, I do find it rather odd that here on DU any such argument that bush is innocent. Is this the DU I used to know or is it gone bonkers?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. I'll ask again, since you avoid the answer
What evidence that bush was behind 9/11 is in F9/11?

Also, why does MM not believe bush was behind 9/11?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Dumb Questions
You should watch the movie and then get back to me.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. So you have no answer... As usual
Do you deny what MM said? And I quoted and sourced in post #9? Why do you make claims without backing them up?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #35
47. Orrrr, you could get back to us after you watch SiCKO
in 9 years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. No, you're innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
That is the jury instruction from judges in the court of law. That is how it works in the US.

Outside of courts the burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim. If you claim there is a god, you have the burden of proof - not atheists. If you claim there are UFO's from another planet visiting the earth, you have the burden of proof - not the doubters. Likewise, if you claim that Bush conducted 9-11, you have the burden of proof. Lacking evidence in all these cases the default position is the negative.

In the case of the truthers: not only do they not have any evidence that Bush conducted 9-11, what they claim as evidence is ridiculous. What they claim happened is obviously impossible. There is ample evidence that truthers are full of shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. No
People who claim bush is innocent are full of shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #22
30. You think Bushco is innocent, too.
Yes, you do. You think Bushco is innocent of raping that 10-year-old in the Penn State shower room, right? That was Jerry Sandusky that McQueary walked in on, not Bushco.

So you think Bushco is innocent, too. Why would you defend Bushco for such a heinous crime, BeFree?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. To defend "BUSHCO" against child rape is heinous!
And you should be ashamed of yourself, BeFree!
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #31
38. Backatcaha
Defending bushco when it comes to 9/11 is what is heinous. Not at freeperville tho.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh wait, you were just acting the fool, eh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. What is "BUSHCO"(whatever that is) guilty of pertaining to 9/11?
Please tell us what "BUSHCO"(whatever that is) is guilty of and present your evidence.

And you are defending child molestation?
That's a new low.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Of course not
bush is guilty of molesting children, too.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. You didn't answer his question.
Where's the evidence that Bush was involved in 9-11? What was his role?

How did 9-11 go down? Please give a plausible explanation, or do you have none?

If you can't give good answers, you need to declare Bush innocent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. Watch the movie F9/11
And then will talk.

And as for Moore not coming out and accusing bushco, if he did, he'd have been blacklisted or worse. They hate his guts already, he's really lucky to still be alive.

Anyway, this should be real easy for you: Did bush obstruct the 9/11 investigations? You do know obstruction of federal investigations is criminal, right?

Or are you ready to claim bush is innocent of obstruction, too?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. seen the movie
what criminal acts did "BUSHCO"(whatever that is) commit on 9/11?


Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. You never answered my question
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. You never answered my questions
What the fuck is wrong with you?
(well, besides being a defender of child molestation)
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
cpwm17 Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 07:09 AM
Response to Reply #42
48. You refuse to talk to other people who have watched the movie
So you are lying.

Michael Moore is not a truther, you are. You need to present the evidence.

If you have evidence for your accusations, it is up to you to present the evidence. I'm not doing your research that you refuse to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. wow, what a lame post
Justice. Riight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Chicken wire houses, spooked. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
13. The Saudi involvement has never been explained
Instead it was covered up on grounds of national security.

IMO the likely scenario: There were high level orders for US intelligence to back off Saudi links to al Qaeda and then feigned surprise by the very same high level officials after 9/11. What did they think would happen if the investigations were obstructed?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-11 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
19. Waves of awakening of public keep rolling in as Moore's films are being shown on TV ....
and they managed to keep them from general vieweship until Current TV -- !!

Bless Michael Moore -- !!!

Everyone should see all of his films -- !!


Now we need him to work on finding us a candidate for 2012!!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug 30th 2014, 09:45 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC