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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:13 AM
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I feel as if I am stuck in a real life Pod People Movie
as I watch the American people swallow the Bin Laden story hook line and sinker. Don't ANY of you DUers think you are being duped? Even Stewart and Colbert are hyping the MSM fairytale. Very disillusioning.

What next? More Islamaphobia, more paranoid police state stuff and more war. Pakistan is next. I'm glad I'm 72 and won't have to watch WWIII.

The true powers behind the two parties know how to manipulate Americans. Chomsky and Ralph Nader have said for years the game is rigged. But you still fall for it. How sad.

And scary!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:15 AM
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1. Welcome to the club..
As a liberal living in the deep south I have felt like I'm in a Pod Person movie for at least a decade now.

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:16 AM
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2. Ok. You have successfuly debunked the 'official' story. What's your version?
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:47 AM
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15. I think he died in December 2001
and that Sibel Edmonds correctly identified Bin Laden as CIA asset right up to 911. (And probably afterwards.)The CIA runs the MSM. Watch RT (Russia Today) and Press TV and get some other view points.

Are you aware that a CIA agent was caught trying to pass nuclear material to Al Qaeda (a CIA asset) to perform false flag op in US or Europe but Pakistan's ISI caught him. He shot 3 ISI agents and there was a huge US/Pakistani conflict. He was supposed to be brought to trial but the US paid money and exerted pressure and he was released. There are divisions in the ISI and Pakistan government. Right after the CIA/ISI conflict the US government came up with the Bin Laden stunt. And now Pakistan has had the biscuit. Fortunately Pakistan has nuclear weapons and so the US must proceed with caution.

Of course I don't believe the official version of 911. i believe it was an inside job.

But why should I do your research? You should at least consider the possibility that your government (Democrats and Republicans) lie to you almost 100% of the time. Dennis Kucinich and too few others tell the truth. Oddly enough I think you would be better off with Ron Paul because he would end the wars, bring home the troops, abolish the Fed, jail the Wall Street thugs and tell the truth to the voters. Sure he might abolish medicare and Social Security but if you believe Obama is going to protect the little guy and save the safety net ---- well --- good luck. He didn`t get Single Payer Health Care and he isn`t going to tax the rich. He is JP Morgan`s man.

Tch!

And PS the changing stories about the kill and the dumping of the body in the ocean should make you just a teensy-weensy bit skeptical. Dontcha think.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:54 AM
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17. Oy, that's a whole lot of crazy crammed in a couple of
paragraphs.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:05 PM
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61. Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim,
that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

Tony Giardino: So who's in this Pentavirate?

Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

Charlie Mackenzie: Dad, how can you hate "The Colonel"?

Stuart Mackenzie: Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartass!


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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 09:06 AM
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78. Much underrated movie...
Great post :hi:

Sid
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:04 PM
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22. You want to abolish the Fed?
Do you even know what the Fed does?
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:19 PM
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30. My GOD!
Obviously you do not! Watch Max Keiser and check out www.zerohedge.com and consider what Ron Paul had to say. Also Dail Bail. The Federal Reserve is going to bankrupt the country and the world. Along with the IMF. Check Confessions of an American Hitman John Perkins.

Hard times lie ahead!
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:24 PM
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35. My question was...
do you even know what the Fed does? I don't think you do.

http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/Federal_Rese...

After you've studied that, research "confirmation bias".

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:26 PM
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38. Alex Jones and Ron Paul. Hokey then. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:28 PM
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42. "consider what Ron Paul had to say"
Sure, after I take into account the educated, rational assessments of Trump, Bozo The Clown, and Carrot Top.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:51 PM
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56. Idiots yup. But while
I do not agree with Ron Paul about medicare or taxation (being a left-wing Canadian)but he is definitely not a nut. I respect the man and I specified where I agreed with him.

No fear though. The power elite would never ever let him get real power. If he did they would assassinate the poor bugger. Anybody who is against war is a true nut in your country. Even if your wars are destroying your economy. And (hopefully) your ability to afford perpetual wars.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:22 PM
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74. If the "power elite" wanted perpetual war, why would they kill Osama Bin Laden?
One of the first things that most Americans said after they expressed relief for him being gone, was, "can we now get out of Afghanistan?"

Wouldn't it make more sense to keep him alive as a boogeyman?
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deconstruct911 Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:09 PM
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81. Maybe not
Perhaps they figure it's safer to make up some "positives" to maintain support for a perpetual war. After all it helps to allegedly accomplish something in the way of the official story. All I know is it hasn't hurt the war agenda, has it?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:09 PM
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23. I am very skeptical.
Edited on Wed May-11-11 12:11 PM by geckosfeet
'Fortunately Pakistan has nuclear weapons'?

WTF is that supposed to mean? They are safe from a US led invasion?
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:14 PM
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26. It means the US only bombs the ratshit out of countries that
are no match for the US firepower.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:26 PM
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39. Ahh. They just drone the ones with nuclear firepower. Or are the drone strike
reports CIA lies fed to the MSM as well?

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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:59 PM
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59. Good point.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:10 PM
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64. Well that's what happens when you lower the bar on your sovereignty by cooperation.
For an alternative policy to what has happened in Pakistan, see North Korea.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:24 PM
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36. Well, I think he was CIA
but I don't think Obama was let in on the secret. So he killed him.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:31 PM
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45. Yup but not in 2011.
However he was a very sick man. Hard to believe he lived 9 years.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:25 PM
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37. Wait- Dennis Kucinich has said the bin Lade died in 2001 and President Obama faked
Edited on Wed May-11-11 12:26 PM by KittyWampus
the whole thing last week?

"Dennis Kucinich and too few others tell the truth. "
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:37 PM
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49. Nope did not say that.
just said he is honest. Think Ron Paul tells the truth too. He has not said 911 was inside job or that Bin Laden stuff was false. But he said your governments lied you into wars against Iraq and Afghanistan.

Those wars are about oil and also drugs. Apparently the US did not appreciate it when the Taliban destroyed the lucrative poppyfields. Now American soldiers guard the fields.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:44 PM
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52. "Now American soldiers guard the fields" I'm sure you have a
link for this, right?
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:54 PM
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58. Read Catherine Austin Fitts
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:31 PM
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44. Ron Paul and Dennis K .... too funny.
They should run together.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:07 PM
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63. !!! a giant woo cake with ron paul frosting and alex jones sprinkles!!
Edited on Wed May-11-11 01:11 PM by dionysus
:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:16 AM
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3. So you don't think he's dead
And this is all just to stir the hornets nest of Islam? :wtf:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:16 AM
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4. So you're suggesting OBL wasn't killed?
I guess I don't get your point.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:18 AM
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5. There is a fine line between thinking critically and paranoia
Just sayin'
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:21 PM
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33. You are SOOOO right!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:21 AM
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6. ROFL.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:22 AM
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7. Well put. Now expect your thread to be sent to the fucking dungeon in 5...4...3.....
:(
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:22 AM
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8. He's living with the Reptoids under Mount Shasta.
Edited on Wed May-11-11 11:25 AM by Ian David




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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:23 AM
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9. Unrec...nt
Sid
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:23 AM
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10. Oh goody, more tinfoilhattery. nt
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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:28 AM
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11. There is no logical reason to think I am being duped
We have the following:

solid proof that raid happened
decent evidence that bin laden was at the compound
confirmation from al-qaeda that he is dead and died when we said he did
no videos of Bin Laden saying "I'm still here!"

There is no, logical reason to believe he is not dead. If any evidence arises to the contrary then we can revisit the issue. Until then, please don't insult my intelligence by pretending like there is some obvious evidence that I'm denying or ignoring (and if there is, please let me know what it is).
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:09 PM
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24. Alex Jones may be a nut but to me he is at LEAST as
believable as FOX and CNN and the rest of the corporate liars. Give him a listen.

Sometimes he is right. See what he has to say about Bin Buddy of the Bush Family. Remember Bush flew all the Bin Ladens out of your country the day after 911 (hmmmmmm!)and in addition the US army flew HUNDREDS of Al Qaeda to Pakistan during the same period. That was an MSM story later hushed up.

You really should at least consider the possibility that 911 was a false flag operation. Most people outside the US KNOW it and there are plenty of Americans who agree.

The corporate press demonizes and ridicules those who doubt the really absurd tale about what happened that day but the Truth movement is centered around the Universities and the highly educated and political aware. There are 3000 engineers and architects in the movement, dozens of pilots, ex-CIA agents and high government officials. And bear in mind that it is risky to come out publically and doubt the official story. You should be aware that the Jersey Girls (widows of 911) and plenty of others who lost loved ones on 911 are Truthers.

They just MAY be onto the truth!
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. You think Alex Jones is...
credible?

That explains a lot.
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:28 PM
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41. I said he is as credible as the corporate media
I think he spews plenty of garbage but also some true stuff. What makes you trust FOX more than Alex Jones. I would give Alex Jones more benefit of the doubt. But Judge Nepolitano and Geraldo are on record on FOX saying they no longer believe the official story of 911 because Building 7 was so obviously a controlled demolition.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:31 PM
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47. "What makes you trust Fox more than Alex Jones?"
What makes you advance stupid strawman arguments?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. An Alex Jones fan. That explains a lot. nt
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:04 PM
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60. Not a fan of Alex Jones but I am willing to consider many
points of view. must confess I think corporate media is no more trustworthy than AJ.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:18 PM
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29. not this shit again.
to the dungeon!
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #24
34. Awesome....
...simply awesome....


Please...stick with gardening and dream translations...

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #24
66. You call him a liar, then tell us to give him a listen
WTF?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:43 AM
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77. Alex Jones never saw a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
That's the problem - he believes EVERY conspiracy theory. That's just as bad or worse as believing no conspiracy theories.

In this thread you conflate two different events that happened under two different administrations ten years apart (9/11 and the raid on Bin Laden's compound).

You need to judge each event separately based on the facts available.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:33 AM
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12. That brand of manufactured paranoia is familiar
Worked so well under Bush, didn't it. Now tell me who to hate this week--I missed church sunday.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:37 AM
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13. and...the true story is...?
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:37 AM
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14. You might want to check out abovetopsecret.com -
It's a conspiracy theory web site and you'd feel right at home.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:50 AM
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16. I agree that we are being manipulated, but exactly how no one would know really.
It is all just speculation.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 11:59 AM
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18. How do we know you are not duping us? Are you sincere...how do we know?
how does one know anything is true?
Once can make anything into a conspiracy if one tries.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:01 PM
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19. You're still here?
The reason you feel like a pod person is because you ran out of tinfoil. Please check some of the fine rw sites to see if they have any. We don't stock it here.

:tinfoilhat:

P.S. You're seriously damaging Canadian Health Care cred. with your rants.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
31. In all fairness to Canada,one would have to willingly
partake of their excellent mental health services for it to do any good.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:02 PM
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20. You need another layer of tinfoil for your hat.
Some really strange shit is getting through to your noggin.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #20
48. Maybe the tin foil hat is past its expiration date.
It happens.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:02 PM
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21. Falling for what? Are you a deather? n/t
n/t
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:10 PM
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25. Plenty of pod people right here at DU
CYA in the dungeon where they come to make sport of those that question official stories
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:20 PM
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32. No, I am part of the great conspiracy so are all those here who are 'going along with it'
we've taken over, the world will be ours.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:27 PM
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40. It's downright wisgrovenikul!
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:29 PM
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43. Frank Chu!
My hero!
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:29 PM
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80. No one likes being called "the next Dylan", but he's the best thing since Emperor Norton
Seriously, has anyone ever described Fox news more accurately and succinctly than "Raxdrobrenicol coverage"?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:31 PM
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46. Last time I was worshipping Satan at the Bohemian Grove, I was told not to worry about it.
Far be it for me to challenge my UN New World Order overlords.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:39 PM
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50. Never mind the rudeness you will receive for
expressing an opinion outside of the official story. The official story is already unraveling as I type this. We may have the last laugh.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:42 PM
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51. "The official story is already unraveling as I type this"
LOL!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #51
72. Go away.
I don't play with you any more because you don't understand the game.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. LOL!
No, you just don't like being called on your misstatements.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:44 PM
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75. Now I'm LOLOL.
Have you ever gone back and read the diatribe you post? Kettle meet pot.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:48 PM
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76. "Diatribe"
LOL!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:47 PM
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53. I'm an agnostic. I don't know exactly what happened with bin
Laden or with 9/11 (not being right there my self, mind you), however I certainly don't believe the official story spun by the government and probably never will.

F the Pod People.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:47 PM
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54. Hey, you there, stop thinking for yourself!
Edited on Wed May-11-11 12:52 PM by Skip Intro

Everything you have been told by the media and the US government is the truth. There is no other truth.

Question not lest ye be judged a lunatic, ridiculed mercilessly, and then locked away from view with the rest of the heretics.

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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:52 PM
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57. An example of this type of "thinking for yourself":
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:49 PM
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55. Simple
Criminal

Foreign land

ARREST !

RUN !

Weapons ? ... Where ? ... I DONT KNOW !

BLAM !


Game over ...

Thanks for playing 'What happens when the criminal doesn't want to be arrested as he has always asserted' ...

You have proof otherwise ? .... spill ...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:06 PM
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62. Yeah, it sucks.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:26 PM
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65. Anything that questions government explanations is now 9-11 fodder wow
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:29 PM
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67. It's a little silly to claim that...
Edited on Wed May-11-11 02:21 PM by SDuderstadt
the OP merely questioned the "official story".

She advocated full-blown, over-the top conspiracy theory nonsense.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:51 PM
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68. SDuderstadt! map cap! where you goin with that roll of tin foil SDuderstadt?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 01:52 PM
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69. Go ahead...
skin that smokewagon and see what happens.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:28 PM
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70. this is the 9-11 forum boy. get to truthin' or get to runnin.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:29 PM
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71. Well...
are you going to do something or just stand there and bleed?
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 03:50 PM
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79. Give them more credit, I bet they are out there
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