I stand with Bill Clinton

[SDuderstadt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7-XfE7KcU

[Ohio Joe]

1. I love President Clinton

I got to see him in Worcester MA, back in 98... maybe 99, I forget but he always did have a way with words.

[SDuderstadt]

2. I have met Hillary...

but I have never hod the pleasure of talking to Bill. He is truly a rare political talent.

[Kesha]

3. You mean as in... "I didn`t have sex with this women"?

Fooled you once shame on him, fooled you twice shame on you...

[SDuderstadt]

5. Funny how you have to misquote him to try to make him...

look bad. Now you're smearing Clinton? Fucking unbelievable.

[Kesha]

10. Please correct me...

Did I misquote him?

It`s quite a while ago, but that`s what I remembered.

[SDuderstadt]

14. What he said was, ''I did not have sexual relations with that woman...

Ms. Lewinsky.''.

[BuddyBoy]

15. Wrong.

He said, "I did not have sexual relations with THAT woman..."

Luckily for him, he wasn't pressed to elaborate on what he said.

[Kesha]

16. Ok... I wrote "THIS woman", not "THAT".

Shame on me...

[greyl]

18. Shit, you're even misquoting yourself.

"I didn`t have sex with this women"

[Kesha]

19. "womEn" was a typo...

Wir können uns auch gerne auf Deutsch unterhalten... just in case your German is better than my English, Alter (Dude).

[greyl]

20. Leaving words out isn't usually considered a typo.

It's not a huge deal anyway, but this forum has a problem with quotes that turn out to not be quotes.

[Kesha]

22. which words, Alter? n/t

[Kesha]

24. "sex" vs. "sexual relations" ?

I`ll ask my wife next time which phrase she is prefering.

"Wanna have some sexual relations, Babe?"

[SDuderstadt]

28. SInce you don't see the distinction...

perhaps you regard masturbation as sexual relations. Here sexual relations typically means intercourse.

[greyl]

30. It's either clean or dirty, and it's either an accurate quote or an innacurate quote. nt

[Kesha]

Say what? n/t

[greyl]

33. Is there anyone on Earth who has never lied? No.

(edit: excepting babies, etc)

That includes the marketing agents of the 9/11 Truth Industry.
Applying your logic, that would clearly mean that nobody regurgitating 9/11 TruthCo bullshit can be trusted. Especially people who claim to be posting quotes when in fact they are posting approximations.

[Kesha]

35. We never lied

Poland attacked Sender Gleiwitz exactly 70 years ago.

Germany only defended itself.

Sure.

[greyl]

37. Obtuse digression.

Since you have no evidence to talk about, you're left with playing games.

[Kesha]

40. Sir... I am not playing games

The leader of the free world did.

On the other hand... oral sex is no sex with that woman vs. thermal expansion leads to a symetrical collapse.

Yeah, makes sense.

[greyl]

42. I see no evidence of that.

If you care about what I think, try giving a direct reply to post #33, after you actually try to comprehend post #33.

[SDuderstadt]

27. Reading isn't your strong suit, is it?

The problem isn't the 'this', it's claiming Clinton said ''sex'' rather than ''sexual relations''. You do, of course, realize that not all sex is sexual relations, right?

More importantly, do you honestly think his conduct during his impeachment somehow invalidates his take on 911? Is there anyone the 911 'truth movement'' won't smear?

[Kesha]

29. As your roots are in Germany, Herr Duderstadt...

Wenn ich eine Frau ficke, wenn ich verheiratet bin, und dann behaupte, ich hätte keine sexuellen Beziehungen zu ihr gehabt... dann habe ich ein Problem.

Translation:

Never quote a politician who cheated on his wife.

[Kesha]

31. German isn't your strong suit, is it?

Wenn jemand in der Öffentlichkeit lügt, ist er verbrannt.

Need a translation, Herr Duderstadt?

[SDuderstadt]

36. Not really, since I don''t give a fuck what you have to say.

Besides, I am a third generation American and I never was taught German. I suspect WWII and the Holocaust had something to do with it.

[Kesha]

41. Must be a reason why they threw them out of here

Third generation Yank... arrived there after 1945?

[SDuderstadt]

52. My family had the sense to abandon Germany around the turn of...

the century, dude. Surely you're not bragging about hanging around for the Third Reich, are you?

[Kesha]

66. So less than 10 years ago? n/t

[SDuderstadt]

69. I see math is not your strong suit either,

It would be kinda hard to be a third generation American within 10 years, dude.

[Kesha]

81. That`s what you wrote... at the turn of the century.

Be precise, Dude...

[SDuderstadt]

83. Dude...

Do you know what the term "third generation American" means?

[Kesha]

93. It means that you`re quite old & don`t have a sense for irony... n/t

[SDuderstadt]

96. No, dude...

It means you suck at math.

[Kesha]

97. Stur wie ein Panzer, der Alte... ;-) n/t

[SDuderstadt]

98. You might want to let go of this....

dude. Seriously.

[Kesha]

99. Well, how about these famous last words?

"I never a had a discussion with that man"

[Twist_U_Up]

102. touche' Gotta love it

[SDuderstadt]

25. WTF are you yammering about now, dude?

Aren't you supposed to be educating us as to the significance of 9/11 in ''covert operations''? Or, did you fold again as usual?

[Kesha]

26. Please translate "againan".

Not in my dictionary, Alter.

Women = Woman, This = That, Againan = ?, Proved liar = ?

[Ohio Joe]

7. That would be him...

While I do not support cheating on a spouse, I have always viewed it as a private matter and the Clinton's deserve their privacy on that matter... IMHO. I find the witch hunt that led to it becoming a public issue to have been a particularly foul thing the repugs did.

[Kesha]

12. 100% agreed...

It was a witch-hunt for very obvious political reasons.
He then lied in public, though.

I quoted Clinton to remind Mr Dude that there are reasons to mistrust someone
who lied openly before.

[wildbilln864]

13. An excellent point Kesha and welcome to the DUngeon. nt

[Ohio Joe]

17. So you admit they never had any business going there to begin with yet...

You feel he should not be trusted because he was not honest about something that was not their business? Sorry, I just do not agree with that. I think President Clinton did an overall excellent job running the country and has continued to serve the US in a very selfless manner even though many do nothing but ridicule him and attempt to tarnish his reputation.

[Kesha]

21. Clinton is a charmer, and sex is private... but

...someone in his position should be aware of the fact that politics is a battlefield where no pardon is given.

The US is not Europe.
The major of Berlin is gay and stated "I`m gay and that`s ok." The leader of the German Liberal Party FDP is gay
and nobody cares...

The Clinton affair just showed that the US society is stuck somewhere in the late 70`s. The difference is that your personal sexual preference
is no topic here. Lying is a topic, though, in all Euro countries. That`s why many Europeans doubt 9/11. Been to Gleiwitz, done that...

Dude`s comment is just silly.

[SDuderstadt]

38. Ask me whether I care if you think my comment was silly..

dude.

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[SDuderstadt]

56. No one cares what you think, dude....n/t

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[SDuderstadt]

58. We've missed you, Sub!

Where have you been? Watching too much Supernanny?

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[Subdivisions]

60. Welp! There go my posts while your insults and incivilities are allowed to stay...

I'm outta here. Back to GD where I never get into trouble.

This Dungeon is the reason why I did not donate during this fund-raising drive.

[SDuderstadt]

61. Maybe it was the name-calling, dude...

I certainly hope you're taking your blood pressure medication, dude. You know what happens when you don't.

[BuddyBoy]

62. "Dude" is a veiled insult that you'll notice he never uses when ...

he's addressing other denialists.

[SDuderstadt]

64. Maybe you should alert DU and tell them, dude...

In the meantime, I am headed to the local "dude" ranch to see if they'll stop using the word.


"Hello, DU? Yes, SDuderstadt keeps calling me dude. Can you make him stop?".



"veiled insult"...LOLOLOL

[BuddyBoy]

67. No thanks. We don't use that tactic. That's for denialist wussies.

n/t

[SDuderstadt]

70. Then quit whining about it here...

dude.

[Bolo Boffin]

76. Another BuddyBoy post that does nothing but attack a group of posters here at DU. n/t

[BuddyBoy]

77. Nope.

[Bolo Boffin]

75. Another BuddyBoy post doing nothing but undermining a poster here. n/t

[BuddyBoy]

78. Wrong again.

[Twist_U_Up]

104. Im sorry its my fault he uses Dude

He appearently cant conjure up a single thought of his own, so back in the day when I was dudeing, he decideds hes gonna run with it.
Search his early posts never a dude to be seen.
Just shows his character
Transparent and inept

[Twist_U_Up]

103. geez and I thought i was only me.

[Ohio Joe]

39. Well...

I disagree. I will not allow the repugs bullshit prying into the mans private life to cloud my judgement of either his honour or his reputation. It is a shame they were able to convince you to do so.

I would also prefer, in the future, if you have something to say to or about any other DU member, please address it to them and not me. I find such games to be a fucked up thing to do, leave me out of your shitty little game.

[SDuderstadt]

34. Where was the lie, dude?

Actually, I believe Clinton's statement was factually correct. What I wish he'd said instead, though, is ''my private life is not the GOP's business'.

SInce fidelity seems to be your larger concern, perhaps you would take the word of Bush or Cheney over Clinton, inasmuch as neither one appears to have cheated on their wives.

[noise]

4. Has Clinton ever sat down for an interview

in which a journalist asked real questions about al Qaeda/Bin Laden and 9/11?

Real=not pretending that everyone in the US is on the same page.

1)Why did CIA officials order FBI agents Rossini and Miller to withhold from the FBI the fact that ID'ed al Qaeda operatives had come to the US? This withholding took place in January 2000. This withholding took place shortly after the Millennium plots were thwarted so it isn't like US intelligence had their guard down.

2)Scheuer claims 10 good chances to kill/capture Bin Laden were called off. Is he right? Why were the missions canceled?

3)Why did NSA Berger steal documents from the National Archives?

[SDuderstadt]

6. Dude...

nothing is missing from the National Archives.

[BeachBaby]

8. Are you saying that Scott McClellan is a liar?

[SDuderstadt]

9. WTF?

Scott McClellan?

[BeachBaby]

49. Oh. Nevermind. Guess you didn't read his book. n/t.

[greyl]

11. Which time? nt

[BeachBaby]

48. Oops. Posted in the wrong spot.

[undeterred]

23. And Bill Clinton NEVER LIES.

:rofl:

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[whatchamacallit]

43. You stand with this Bill Clinton?

Yeah, I imagine you do

[SDuderstadt]

44. Yeah, dude, I do...

It's kinda stupid to think there's something automatically nefarious in appearing at events with current/former Presidents.

[whatchamacallit]

45. There's all kinds of stupid

"dude"

[SDuderstadt]

46. Well, thanks for sharing your kind of stupid with us...

nonetheless, dude.

[whatchamacallit]

50. You too

(apparently 24/7)

[BuddyBoy]

47. YTube headline misquotes President Clinton

President Clinton didn't say that "truthers are idiots".

He said "we look like idiots..."

[SDuderstadt]

51. Dude...since the rest of us don't claim it was an "inside job"....

it should be relatively clear who he's referring to.

[BuddyBoy]

53. dude ...

Face it. It wasn't one of Bill Clinton's finest moments, dudester.

You pretend to act like you are surprised that Bill Clinton isn't interested in talking about 9/11 being an inside job.

[SDuderstadt]

54. It IS one of his finest moments...

and I'm rather proud of him. By the sound of the audience, they were proud of him, too. Face it, "truthers" are rapidly becoming pariahs. Gee, I wonder why?

[BuddyBoy]

63. Then you are easily amused by pandering politicians.

And Bush 9/11 fairy tales.

[SDuderstadt]

65. Careful, dude...

Bill Clinton is far more beloved here than you, since you're not at all.

[BuddyBoy]

68. You ARE easily an easily amused dude, dude.

dude, Who told you that anyone here doesn't love Bill Clinton? If there is any such person, they're most likely FULL STOP.

[SDuderstadt]

71. You smear Clinton all the time, dude...

along with smearing parents of child victims of 9/11 by accusing of accepting money for their silence, you haven't won many friends, unless you want to count Kesha and lovepg. Personally, I wouldn't.

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[SDuderstadt]

80. Fucking unbelievable...

Now you're denying that you regularly smear Bill Clinton?

[BuddyBoy]

82. Now you're denying that you regularly smear truth seekers?

[SDuderstadt]

84. Dude...

I don't consider someone who smears the parents of children who died on 9/11 to be a "truth seeker".

[BuddyBoy]

85. dude ...

I don't consider someone who smears everyone who wants to know the truth to be a very ethical liberal Democrat.

[SDuderstadt]

86. Show me where I've done that dude...

Be precise. Hint: you're smearing me now with your false accusation.

[BuddyBoy]

87. dude ...

You know what "if the shoe fits, wear it" means.

[SDuderstadt]

88. Yeah, I do and...

you'll need to actually get a shoe, dude. I asked for specific examples which, of course, you cannot provide.

[BuddyBoy]

89. You'd rather discuss those toasted cars than try to bury the info ...

right? Toasted fire trucks, po-po cars, and civilian cars = more evidence of a BUSHCO inside job. Ouch, dude.

[SDuderstadt]

92. I think you don't know which thread you're posting in...

dude.

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[noise]

72. When will Bill Clinton

answer the questions of the people who don't give a damn about inside job theories but simply want to know the truth?

[autlow2244]

73. Bill Clinton

will answer questions when the CFR tells him he can.

[SDuderstadt]

74. Clinton and Gore already testified before the 9/11 Commission...

as the top-ranking officers of the Executive Branch from 1/93 to 1/01, it's pretty easy to imagine they were asked questions about highly classified matters and their testimony is, accordingly, classified too.

[Raster]

90. They testified, but NOT under oath.

[SDuderstadt]

91. Gee, why do you think that is, dude?

Think real hard.

[BuddyBoy]

95. So they would feel free to be perfectly candid? Or ...

are you insinuating that they were afraid of potential perjury charges?

[Twist_U_Up]

105. Give it up mr dude,

you represent just 5% of the OS-believing nutjobs.

Instead of selling your soul to the dark side, do something positive with your life.
Get a girlfriend to help coopt your time. Geesh you live here pushing your bullshit.

With so much time on your hands, why not contribute to the world in a positive fashion?
Using your recreational time in pursuit of offending, insulting, criticising others and spreading disinfo
just seems like a Waste Of Life.

[SDuderstadt]

100. Kick for twhite...

self-explanatory

[SDuderstadt]

101. kick n/t

[SDuderstadt]

106. Kick....n/t