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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:57 PM
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Okay, we get it; we're all mentally defective losers for not believing the official story
All CTs are the same, and if we believe any, we believe all. Therefore, we deserve endless posts about stupid conspiracy theorists and their (our) fucked up minds...
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:00 PM
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1. Finally - after 8 years one of you gets it. nt
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BuddyBoy Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:06 PM
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2. Official Stories: Believe 'em or Not


"While more Americans doubt the 9/11 story every week, evidence abounds that many have a mental block against rational examination of the evidence about 9/11. The possibility that it was an inside job is a non-starter for them. Programmed cut outs insure that 9/11 doubts are consigned to the conspiracy closet.

Last June I was explaining the fuss over my 9/11 article to a family member who shall remain anonymous and he interrupted and said, I dont want to talk about it. Millions join him in that sentiment. By implication they might as well say: Id rather cling to the official 9/11 myth = If mass murderers run free, Im fine with that = If 9/11 was an inside job, then Im ruled by monsters and I might have to do something about it, Id rather watch Paris Hilton.

Where does this passive attitude come from? Causes are many but American indoctrination has two sides that figure prominently in the explanation:
Belief in American Exceptionalism
Disbelief in conspiracy
The first belief massages the American ego that we are heroes, always the good guys in history, and we can trust our government to be the same. The second steers us clear of subversive theories and thwarts connecting the dots. American exceptionalism is Civics 101, the Disneyfication of U.S. history, the were so good formula, those stupid romances commonly called history. Like no other nation in history, we are an unparalleled success, goes the story. With American self-esteem unrivalled, denial about 9/11 is hardly surprising. Conventional wisdom, in effect, says Yes, criminal gangs have ruled in other nations from time to time, perhaps always, but it has never happened here and cannot happen here. Evidence to the contrary is bogus, I do not have to even look at it. For one thing, I vote. We are the worlds greatest duh-mocracy. In fact, I voted for Bush-Cheney (or that other skull-and-bones candidate from Yale, I forget). I am fully invested with the regime and Im not a criminal or traitor, so Bush-Cheney must not be either. After all, we the people are the government. Criminals and traitors do not look like us either, they look like Arabs, Germans, Japanese, Chinese.

Besides, conspiracy theories are little more than a symptom of a mental disease. Such asinine theories stem from delusion and paranoia, not objective reality. On its face, it is preposterous to believe that the U.S. government would attack its own people. History is about accidents, bungling, lone nuts, chaos and coincidence, not planning, cause-and-effect, execution and cover-ups.

False Flag Terrorism
Americans know a great deal that just is not so. The hidden history of false-flag terrorism is key, followed by trained aversion to conspiracy. When bad things happen on a large scale, chances are that an important group of people wanted them to happen and made them happen.

Governments throughout history have provoked or staged attacks on their own people to serve the powers behind the throne (the money power), glorify themselves, engage in vast government spending, reward friends, exert domestic control, stimulate the juices of war, annex neighbors and pursue vast geostrategic rearrangements (the global domination project). A few examples:
Nero burned Rome to blame the Christans A.D. 64
US provoked Mexican-American war 1846
USS Maine sinking 1898
Lusitania sinking 1915
Reichstag fire 1933
Hitlers staged attack on the Gleiwitz radio station 1939
The surprise attack at Pearl Harbor 1941
Bay of Pigs conspiracy 1961
Operation Northwoods 1962
LBJs Gulf of Tonkin conspiracy 1964
Kuwaiti baby incubator hoax 1991
Bush Jr.s 9/11, yellow cake and WMD scams

Ruthless though plotters be, the basic principle is as mundane as insurance fraud, as Webster G. Tarpley writes (9/11 Synthetic Terror, 2005, p. 104), and nicely illustrated by the obscure hoax that started World War II. Hitler wanted to invade Poland but knew the German majority did not support war, so a group of hapless German convicts was dressed up in Polish army uniforms (by Tarpleys account, also see these variations), marched to the Gleiwitz radio station, machine gunned to death, arranged as if storming the building, and Nazi agents read an anti-German statement in Polish declaring Polish forces had invaded Gleiwitz and taken over the radio station. With this farce and related border stunts, Hitler invaded Poland the next day, September 1, 1939. Wag the dog anyone?
Errors about Conspiracy
Many Americans know that the JFK, RFK, MLK and other assassinations were inside jobs, and Nixons Watergate and Reagans Iran-Contra are proven conspiracies with criminal convictions. Blatant government murder of U.S. citizens occurred at Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City bombing. Yet fools and liars argue that the scale of 9/11 was too big to be an inside job because it would involve so many people. A conspirator would surely squeal and we would hear about it, goes the argument, and that has not happened."

Morgan Reynolds, 2006
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:20 PM
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3. Morgan Reynolds and Webster Tarpley...
Jesus, what a nutjob combo!
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:53 PM
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4. Serious industrial strength rationalization there
Looks like Reynolds is all set for a lifetime hobby.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 06:05 PM
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11. everything he wrote there is perfectly rational
don't know why you can't admit it
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 06:16 PM
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12. A thumbs up from a no-planer is not the best endorsement for "rational". nt
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 06:30 PM
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13. You've got a weird definition of...
"perfectly rational", Spooked.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:18 PM
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5. Usually when quoting someone you should provide a link
otherwise people may mistakenly believe you wrote the post.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:20 PM
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7. Actually, it does sound like something from BB...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:20 PM by SDuderstadt
totally goofy. Fucking unbelievable.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:51 PM
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8. True, but
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:18 PM
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6. "Blatant government murder of U.S. citizens occurred at Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Oklahoma City...
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 07:19 PM by SDuderstadt
bombing".

WTF? David Koresh and the Branch Davidians started the fires at the compound and I'd love to see your evidence that "the government" murdered people in the OKC bombing when it was clearly McVeigh. Reynolds is out of his mind. It's emblematic that you cite him as if he is a credible source and a major reason why I don't take you seriously and why I won't engage with you directly. As Satchel said in "Get Fuzzy", "You can't fight crazy".
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lovepg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:15 PM
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9. Ok I am quoting me here.......
Watergate,BCCI, Iran contra, CIA selling drugs to finance off record black opps, CIA doing drug experiments on soldiers without there knowing, The government testing radition over populated areas to see what effects it had,
The tobbaco industry conspiring to hide the effects of cigarette smoking on your health. The wiretapping by the FBI of black activists, The infiltration with intent to disrupt peace organizations by the FBI, The governments conspiracy to kill Castro and other foriegn leaders, the" disapearence" of billions of dollars in Iraq and the Pentagon. The stealing of votes by electronic voting machines proven to switch votes and be easily hackable, The outing of Valarie Plame
for political purposes, The firing of federal attornys for political puposes, ect, ect ,ect ,ect,.......
There are many more of course. what do all these things have in common?
They are all conspiracies that many idiots refused to look at and see the evidence for right in front of their eyes.
Everyone of these had an official explanations of various complexities. Some like the tobbaco industry had SCIENCE behind their lies.
If after the last 50 years you can look at any government report with an unjaundiced eye GUMP is thy name.
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IScreamSundays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-10 09:35 PM
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17. +1 nt
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:26 PM
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10. speak for yourself. 911 was an inside job.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 09:25 PM
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14. 911 Comission was even worse than that...
It was full of omissions and dishonest.

This makes it easy to say, "911 was an inside job"

Will we ever get an honest assessment?

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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 03:44 PM
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15. kick
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 03:59 PM
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16. thank you for kicking
a good reminder that there are still some people out there who think NO PLANES hit the WTC, the Pentagon, or a field in PA.
nine years later and still nothing.
you guys any closer to convincing any sane person that there were no planes?
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-11 11:10 AM
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18. I imagine kicking this makes sense to someone...
Also, where do I say there were no planes?
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-11 02:40 AM
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19. obvious
locking
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