Is this really solid proof?

[wildbilln864]

:banghead:
video analysis

[Bolo Boffin]

1. "From the movie 911 Eyewitness"

Long posted here, wildbill, long debunked.

The answer would be "No."

[wildbilln864]

2. everything's been long debunked...

according to you. :eyes:
But we see no debunking in fact only denial.

[Bolo Boffin]

5. Why have no videos closer to the site recorded these same "explosions"?

Because they are wind sounds against the microphone.

[wildbilln864]

7. this thread is about the math in the video and the collapse speeds...

stick to the subject. Debunk it! :popcorn:

[Bolo Boffin]

8. Dude, I didn't watch the video.

Google the debunk. It's been done.

[wildbilln864]

9. you think it has been done but not so...

else point me to it. The math is solid in the video. You really should watch it first. :eyes:

[Bolo Boffin]

11. I saw 911 Eyewitness back in the dark ages of the Truth Movement.

Back when you guys still claimed Delmart Vreeland. I'm not watching it again, especially since this is one more of your patented "link with no fricking context" designed to drive traffic to your stupid video of the week.

Forget it.

[wildbilln864]

12. you keep me young bolo, thanks!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[wildbilln864]

3. we're still waiting for you...

to explain how elmental Al. was in paint. Not kaolin(an aluminum compound) but pure aluminum. :popcorn:

[Bolo Boffin]

4. It wasn't elemental aluminum. Jones was wrong. n/t

[wildbilln864]

6. proof?

[Bolo Boffin]

10. Proof.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4607894&postcount=1694

Examining the two side by side clearly shows similarity in size, crystal shape and thickness between the two groups of plate-like particles. Note the exact same style of grouping where platelets have "sandwiched" together in the top middle of b) and the top left of c) in Jones' samples and the exact same phenomenon in the photo to the right. This indicates very strongly that these particles are indeed Kaolinite.

There are many such photo-micrographs of Kaolinite available.

...The plate-like structures seen in the photo-micrographs, of both "thermite chip" samples, share not only the same crystalline morphology and grouping, but also the same EDS signature.

This means that there is very little doubt remaining as to what these platelets are. In light of this evidence it is safe to say that these platelets consist of Kaolinite, which does not contain any "elemental aluminium". The SEM examination in Jones' paper does not show any other particle type (other than the rhomboidal Fe₂O₃) and no other data in the EDS spectra for samples a-d indicate it's presence.

[wildbilln864]

13. nope! similarity dosn't prove it's the same!

It's speculation only without an analysis. I think I'll believe a chemist over an anonymous internet poster, sorry. :rofl:

[Bolo Boffin]

14. It does when it's Jones flapping his gums, right?

The poster there is a material scientist who does forensic analysis for a living, and he's using Harrit et al. data against them.

[wildbilln864]

15. It's not just Jones. bolo!

linky
:shrug:

[Bolo Boffin]

16. Do you know what an argument from authority is, wildbill?

You're soaking in one right now.

[wildbilln864]

17. I don't use JREF posters as my authority...

like you do. :eyes:

[Bolo Boffin]

18. I posted to an argument, wildbill. You handwaved to an authority. n/t

[wildbilln864]

23. I posted to a link that dispels your assertion...

but you didn't use it, right. :eyes:

[procopia]

21. authors tested for kaolin

Dr. Jones:

“IF it is so easy to publish in Bentham Scientific journals, or if these are "vanity publications" (note: there is no factual basis for these charges) -- then why don't the objectors write up their objections and get them peer-reviewed and published?? The fact is, it is not easy, as serious objectors will find out.” And “Debunkers may raise all sorts of objections on forums, such as "Oh, it's just paint" or "the aluminum is bound up in kaolin." We have answered those questions in the paper, and shown them to be nonsense, but you have to read to find the answers.”

“In kaolin and other substances which incorporate Al and Si, the Al and Si are bound chemically -- that is, they will NOT separate under the action of a solvent such as MEK. That is why these MEK tests are so significant! WE thought of the possibility of an alumino-silicate early on of course, but then we did the MEK tests and were observed a separation of Al from other elements with this solvent - and this test RULES OUT strictly the notion that the aluminum which migrated is bound in an aluminosilicate.”

http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12851

[Bolo Boffin]

22. Until the authors conduct a simple $40 XRD test to determine the actual compounds

They haven't eliminated kaolin. They are blowing smoke, and it's evidence of their sheer stupidity or intention to deceive for them to claim otherwise.

[Realityhack]

24. LOL Jones calling for people to have their objections peer reviewed.... ROTFLMFAO n/t

[whatchamacallit]

19. Interesting video

Interesting enough to force the OCT into piss-themselves-ostrich-mode. When they say I didn't bother to watch you know they know they got nothin.

[LARED]

20. No

There is no validation of the actual distance and time.