New film shows Poppy Bush connection to JFK murder!! (Trailer)

[TheUnspeakable]

Dark Legacy-George Bush and the Murder of JFK"

If you've seen the movie "JFK II- The Bush Connection" the film maker has been working for 5 years on this new updated version.
trailer
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CMF6AcGvuU&feature=channel_pag... >
10 minute highlight film
<www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jax13K4jRwY >
It is my personal belief that JFK was the last "real" president we had. This is very relevent now, because the message was loud and clear, and
every president we've had since Nov. 22,1963, has had his hands tied in one way or another. Obama is a great man, and I want him to succeed, to save us,
so badly, but we HAVE to understand the limitations placed on him. Not his personal limitations, but the way the system works. That should be our starting off point.
"Obama did this," "Obama didn't do that" It all has to be discussed within the framework of what this country really is. We need to understand our true history
to be able to have an informed debate about it. If you agree, please rec., and refrain from actually going into the aspects of the murder( and cover-up) of our president,
by his own government,to avoid the dungeon.
film maker's website
BushkilledJFK.com < http://www.jfkii.com />

[seemslikeadream]

1. It is true

[TheUnspeakable]

2. thanks, SLAD, you're the best!

[seemslikeadream]

9. Speak the unspeakable...

Wake the sleeping

[CTKA-Probe]

35. Trust me Hankey is a fraud. I've been researching for 17 years.

Keep an eye out for our review of John Hankey.

In the research Community John Hankey is viewed as an utter joke.

Sadly, not that many people know enough about the Kennedy assassination to consciously debunk Hankey,

like those of us in the field do. But, it shouldnt take an expert to debunk him lol just read the books he claims to get his information from. They tend to say nothing of the sort.

Furthermore just because someone says they believe in a conspiracy does not make them an advocate of the truth.

Hankey knows next to nothing about the case and has also blatantly lied about his years spent researching.

Hankey genuinely rates alongside David Icke, Alex Jones and the rest of the carnival barkers of ego and ineptitude.

The big problem is that there are legitimate researchers out there working. Its genuinely hard work and tough at times and then
these guys come along with some cock n bull idea and then suddenly I'm branded as a believer that Dick Cheney, Ronald McDonald and the Illuminati plotted Diana's death in a subway restaurant which was a front front for Jesuits and that the tunnel she died in had a hidden entrance which led directly to where the Reptilian lizard men sacrifice their human car wreck victims.

Like I said please keep an eye on CTKA for a review of JFK II and all will be revealed.

Indeed if you wanna go get a good grip on JFK and related matters please visit the us and the Real History Archives.

[TheUnspeakable]

36. Hello! I'm very familiar with CTKA and Jim DiEugenio

I'm sorry to hear that you think Hankey is a joke.I was a great admirer of the first JFK II-simply
the fact that it was a movie, because it's a lot easier to get someone to watch a movie than it is to get them to read a book. Often, the research community is a little incestuous and what good does that do? If I had to give anyone the final word about what really happened, it would probably be DiEugenio, but I don't see what's blatantly false about Hankey's work- perhaps it's not researched enough, but I don't see any hidden agenda like Alex Jones, or any whackiness like Icke. I like to check out the educationforum often, and I think maybe there is sort of a "disagreement" about GHW Bush's involvement in all this. I would just say that after reading Russ Baker's "Family of Secrets"
it's obvious that not only was he involved, but he was a master at hiding his tracks-so a credible researcher might not be able to find a lot of evidence on him. Either way, I look forward to the review of JFK II.

Some advice-I hope you plan to stay around here! There are a few here who will do everything they can
to provoke you into getting "tombstoned" Sometimes I play a little game in this forum-I go over old threads, and when I see a really good post, something I totally agree with, I click on the poster's profile and 9 times out of 10, they've been tombstoned. I think these few who I speak of are professionals, so watch out-don't take the bait. Don't try to argue with them about nonsense!

[pnutbutr]

3. rofl

crap like this is funny.

[TheUnspeakable]

4. yeah, it's a riot

[pnutbutr]

6. it is

The idea of it was funny enough but the website had me rofling all the way down the hall.

[rampart]

5. ghw bush

i hate the "41" "43" stuff

this guy seems to have been involved in every sleezy cia operation from the bay of pigs to iran contra.

how did his son get away with being a draft dodger?

[TheUnspeakable]

8. "Paranoid Shift" by Michael Hasty-last paragraph-

"Nor, finally, is it in any way a “theory” that the one, single name that can be directly linked to the Third Reich, the US military industrial complex, Skull and Bones, Eastern Establishment good ol’ boys, the Illuminati, Big Texas Oil, the Bay of Pigs, the Miami Cubans, the Mafia, the FBI, the JFK assassination, the New World Order, Watergate, the Republican National Committee, Eastern European fascists, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, CIA headquarters, the October Surprise, the Iran/Contra scandal, Inslaw, the Christic Institute, Manuel Noriega, drug-running “freedom fighters” and death squads, Iraqgate, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, the blood of innocents, the savings and loan crash, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the “Octopus,” the “Enterprise,” the Afghan mujaheddin, the War on Drugs, Mena (Arkansas), Whitewater, Sun Myung Moon, the Carlyle Group, Osama bin Laden and the Saudi royal family, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, and the presidency and vice-presidency of the United States, is: George Herbert Walker Bush.

“Theory?” To the contrary.

It is a well-documented, tragic and -- especially if you’re paranoid -- terrifying fact"

[defendandprotect]

32. Agree . . .and Reagan assassination attempt . . .

They say that after that, Bush was really the president --

Meanwhile, of course, they could not have done this without have LBJ as president -- !!!

[NightWatcher]

7. everyone alive remembers where they were when JFK was assassinated...except poppy

and oh yes, he was in Dallas.

and where was he on that other date that go unmentioned, oh yes a few miles away from tat one too.

[TheUnspeakable]

11. he was celebrating with his friends on that other date n/t

[Javaman]

10. nothing will change until poppy finally croaks. nt

[TheUnspeakable]

12. I don't know if it will change then..

I expect to hear a lot of "what a great president he was" blah, blah blah... and I'm gonna lose it!!!

[Javaman]

13. frankly, I don't think the old bastard will ever die...

I think they will turn him into a robot before he does die, if they already haven't.

[Soylent Brice]

14. thank you for posting!!!

i did a paper last semseter on Smedley Butler and the Business Plot, and it amazed me to see how all this really started.

i think i saw something posted here on DU a couple of months ago that had pics of GHWB in front of the book depository in dallas the same day of the JFK assassination. can't remember if it was bunk or not, but the piece was really interesting.

hold on, i'll try to find the link.

on edit: found it!

check this out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[seemslikeadream]

15. Barbara and georgie were there allso that day

True

[Soylent Brice]

16. reallly...? interesting.

was jr there learning the ropes???

[seemslikeadream]

17. I heard Michael Beschloss say that on Imus and posted it here

can't find the original link right now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Bolo Boffin]

18. later on

weren't there for the actual assassination, went there after they heard

True

[seemslikeadream]

19. No Beschloss said they were there watching Kennedy's motorcade

I posted it right after I heard him say it on Imus, now I will find the link and maybe the achived Imus show. Or email Bechloss I've always wanted to do that



I was not the only one who heard it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Bolo Boffin]

20. Beschloss is wrong

True

[seemslikeadream]

21. I will take his word over yours

[Bolo Boffin]

22. You lose.

True

[seemslikeadream]

24. We all lost

Resist or Become Serfs
by Chris Hedges

America is devolving into a third-world nation. And if we do not immediately halt our elite's rapacious looting of the public treasury we will be left with trillions in debts, which can never be repaid, and widespread human misery which we will be helpless to ameliorate. Our anemic democracy will be replaced with a robust national police state. The elite will withdraw into heavily guarded gated communities where they will have access to security, goods and services that cannot be afforded by the rest of us. Tens of millions of people, brutally controlled, will live in perpetual poverty. This is the inevitable result of unchecked corporate capitalism. The stimulus and bailout plans are not about saving us. They are about saving them. We can resist, which means street protests, disruptions of the system and demonstrations, or become serfs.

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The corporate state, and the political and intellectual class that served the corporate state, constructed a financial and political system based on illusions. Corporations engaged in pyramid lending that created fictitious assets. These fictitious assets became collateral for more bank lending. The elite skimmed off hundreds of millions in bonuses, commissions and salaries from this fictitious wealth. Politicians, who dutifully served corporate interests rather than those of citizens, were showered with campaign contributions and given lucrative jobs when they left office. Universities, knowing it was not good business to challenge corporatism, muted any voices of conscience while they went begging for corporate donations and grants. Deceptive loans and credit card debt fueled the binges of a consumer society and hid falling wages and the loss of manufacturing jobs.

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The bullet to our head, inevitable if we do not radically alter course, will be sudden. We have been borrowing at the rate of more than $2 billion a day over the last 10 years, and at some point it has to stop. The moment China, the oil-rich states and other international investors stop buying treasury bonds the dollar will become junk. Inflation will rocket upward. We will become Weimar Germany. A furious and sustained backlash by a betrayed and angry populace, one unprepared intellectually and psychologically for collapse, will sweep aside the Democrats and most of the Republicans. A cabal of proto-fascist misfits, from Christian demagogues to simpletons like Sarah Palin to loudmouth talk show hosts, who we naively dismiss as buffoons, will find a following with promises of revenge and moral renewal. The elites, the ones with their Harvard Business School degrees and expensive vocabularies, will retreat into their sheltered enclaves of privilege and comfort. We will be left bereft and abandoned outside the gates.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090406_resist_or_... /



Mortgage Fraud Epidemic: How the FBI Blew It and Why There's No 'Perp Walks'
Posted by seemslikeadream on Mon Apr-06-09 10:16 AM

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/225823/Mor... \'s-No-\'Perp-Walks\'?tickers=JPM,BAC,XLF,MHP,MCO,WB,FAS?sec=topStories&pos=9&asset=TBD&ccode=TBD



In the wake of the bursting of the housing bubble, you'd think there'd be a significant number of investigations into criminal wrongdoing and accounting fraud, similar to what occurred after the S&L crisis and bursting of the stock bubble in 2000.
But two years into the crisis the FBI "doesn't have a single major conviction or indictment of anyone," notes William Black, a former senior bank regulator and S&L prosecutor, and currently an Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri - Kansas City.

Black, who was counsel to the Federal Home Loan Bank Board during the S&L crisis of the 1980s and blew the whistle on the "Keating Five" in 1989, reiterated what he told us in November: Though the FBI warned of an "epidemic" of mortgage fraud in 2004, they subsequently made a "strategic alliance" with the Mortgage Bankers Association, which Black calls the "trade association of perps."

Indeed, as much as 80% of the fraud during the boom was "induced by the lenders," who either encouraged people to lie on loan applications or actively altered documents to make them more likely to be approved, says Black.

How extensive was the fraud?

"There was the appearance of fraud or misrepresentation in almost every file," Fitch Investors declared in late 2007 after reviewing nonperforming subprime MBS (the same stuff they, S&P and Moody's rated triple-A).

Black estimates there are as many as 500,000 cases of mortgage fraud that need to be investigated. Furthermore, such extensive mortgage fraud led to accounting fraud, which led to securities fraud at any/all publicly traded mortgage lenders. As with the FBI, the SEC was "completely ineffective" in stopping such crimes, much less investigating them now, he says.


Soros says U.S. banks "basically insolvent"



NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. economy is in for "a
lasting slowdown" and won't recover this year, while
"the banking system as a whole is basically insolvent,"
billionaire investor George Soros told Reuters Financial
Television on Monday.

While nationalization of banks is "out of the question,"
he said stress tests being conducted by the U.S. Treasury
could be a precursor to a more successful recapitalization.



Soros also said the U.S. dollar is under pressure and
may eventually be replaced as a world reserve currency,
possibly by the IMF's Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic
currency basket comprising dollars, euros, yen and sterling.



While a global recovery is possible in 2010, Soros said
the timing will ultimately depend on the depth of the
recession. China, he said, will be the first country to
emerge from recession, probably this year, and will
spearhead global growth in 2010.

[Bolo Boffin]

29. Citizen, would you like some soma? n/t

[seemslikeadream]

25. That is what you and yours fail so deeply to understand

you all concentrate on the small stuff while Rome burns, why is that?

[Bolo Boffin]

30. Talking to you about your incessant fantasies about 9/11, that's small stuff?

Why do you focus on the small stuff?

[TheUnspeakable]

23. You're welcome-I've seen that pic..

I don't think anyone can say for sure if that was him. But he was in the area that day.
from Russ Baker's "Family of Secrets
(snip)"This brings us to the vexing question of Poppy's motive in calling the FBI at 1:45 P.M. on Nov. 22, to identify James Parrott as a possible suspect in the murder,and to mention that he, George H.W. Bush,happened to be in Tyler, Texas. He told the FBI that he expected to spend the night of Nov.22 at the Sheriton Hotel in Dallas-but instead, after flying to Dallas on Zeppa's (a friend) plane,he left again almost immediately on a commercial flight to Huston. Why state that he expected to spend the night at the Dallas Sheraton if he was not planning to stay? Perhaps this was to create a little confusion, to blur the fact that he had already stayed at the hotel-the night before. Anyone inquiring would learn that Bush was in Tyler at the time of the assassination and "planned" to stay in Dallas afterward, but cancelled his plan following JFK's death."

IT'S ALL VERY MURKY-JUST THE WAY POOPY LIKES IT!!!

[TheUnspeakable]

26. copy of ad from Family of Secrets

(book has actual copy)Dallas Morning News Wednesday, November20,1963

CLUB ACTIVITIES
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF OILWELL DRILLING CONTRACTORS
6:30 PM Thursday, Sheraton Dallas Hotel: George Bush, President, Zapata Off-shore Co.

[MinM]

27. Poppy: Pulling the Thread

http://stationcharon.blogspot.com/2007/01/pulling-threa...

http://www.blackopforum.info/index.php/topic,24.0.html

Octafish's Journal - Regarding JFK Assassination—Who do You Trust: Poppy Bush or Your Own Eyes?

[TheUnspeakable]

28. keep pulling, MinM-maybe it really will unravel

I wonder sometimes.it's like one step forward, two steps back.
in your sig line-X BEST SCENE OF ANY MOVIE EVER!!!!!!

[defendandprotect]

31. Perhaps think of the JFK coup as more along lines of ....

"Murder On The Orient Express" -- you know EVERYONE committed the crime --
each and every participant did something to the victim, who was drugged . . .
so no saying who actually was the actual murderer.

Since Hunt wouldn't have been far from the plannning, I think that would appeal to him.
Obviously, lots of CIA involvement -- including the writing of the final Warren Commission
Report!

Nixon, Bush, LBJ -- oil industry -- generally, the elites in rebellion against the
possibility of JFK as another FDR.
Allan Dulles, Hoover/FBI -- on and on.

LBJ's mistreess -- Madelaine Brown -- gives us the whole line up of those who
were at the meeting the night before at Clinton Murchinson's house...
SEE: YOU TUBE!!

But I think there was an actual demand that they all be present in Dallas . . .

In fact, journalist, Helen Thomas, was there at Murchinson's that night and she filed an affadavit
giving the names of the notables who were there.

[MinM]

33. Minnesota judge: CIA ‘probably misled’ panel he led on JFK assassination

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[icee2]

34. Have there been ANY conspiracies since WW2 that the bushes...

haven't had something to do with? From trading with the (Nazi) enemies to stealing elections, 9/11, starting wars of aggression etc., the bushes haven't missed out on much, have they?