Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Audio: Mark Crispin Miller on Mike Malloy - 5.29.2008

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:50 PM
Original message
Audio: Mark Crispin Miller on Mike Malloy - 5.29.2008
Thanks reprehensor



Author Mark Crispin Miller was on Mike Malloy's NovaM broadcast last night, talking about his new book, Loser Take All.

Miller warns that if the election is close enough, the Republicans will try to steal it. Further, Miller warns us to be psychologically prepared for any crazy moves that the current regime may try and pull to broaden wars or simply declare Martial Law at home. After all, this isn't just any political dynasty poised to lose power, this is the Bush Crime Family.

Strong medicine for our weak media, and the supine Congress.

Streaming audio;
http://media.putfile.com/MCM-on-Malloy---5-29-2008


http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/miller-on-malloy-5.29.2008.mp3
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. How do I know MCM is for real?
Well, he's in the "wouldn't put it past them" school but doesn't really believe in the ideas of 9/11 truth, or emphasize his 9/11 skepticism.

And he doesn't waste any time attacking it. He's quite respectful in debate about it, and moves on to what he thinks is important. He's always after the real evil, the real issue of the illegitimate regime that threatens to extinguish the remaining sparks of justice and democracy in this soon-to-be-former republic. That's how you know he's not some faker whose only two priorities are to be right and complacent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I just ran into some one who called him a nutjob
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. Here's more of what I mean...
Again, remembering that he doesn't think the evidence is good enough to say "inside job," he nevertheless looks at the evidence. He doesn't invoke a protective shield. In fact, he says things like this:



Sick of Conspiracy Theories? Then Don't Whine When They Steal It From Obama
by daveysdad Sat May 31, 2008 at 10:00:19 AM PDT

I'm sick of it. So is Mark Crispin Miller.

The limitation of "conspiracy theory" to only a single, pejorative definition--something fringy, illegitimate, tin-foily, etc.--is hurting our nation and could be the downfall of it.

Here is why Mark Crispin Miller, a professor of media studies at New York University, believes that "conspiracy theory" should be a working phrase in the vocabulary of democracy.

There have been very real and documented government conspiracies: MK-ULTRA, Operation Mockingbird, Operation Northwoods, Project SHAD, Iran-Contra, and many more.

As Miller points out, the danger of limiting "conspiracy theory" to mean only worthless conjecture from fringe elements is the closing of the mind to very real, very dangerous conspiracies taking place: the degradation of election integrity, for example.

Despite eight years' worth of massive, unimpeachable data accumulated by first-rate investigators, researchers and writers, the concept of "election theft" in America remains relegated to the pejorative "conspiracy theory" outhouse. It's hard to think of a more dangerous threat to our democracy, other than the unwillingness of people to open their minds to the fact that it is happening.

The Nation, MotherJones, and other liberal/progressive gatekeepers still consider Republican election theft off limits because of the taint of "conspiracy theory." And by doing so they increase the danger to our republic.

The Bush Regime has never been elected, according to the data, is profoundly criminal and anti-American. After torture, extraordinary rendition, outing of an entire CIA covert network, warrantless wiretapping, and the rest, you really have to ask if there is anything they would not do.

Last year's NSPD-51 gave Bush the ability to declare martial law and exert control over every branch of government in the event of an "emergency" as determined by Bush.

KBR has recent completed construction "detention centers" all around the rural U.S.

Bush has the ability to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" or "terrorist" and revoke that person's habeaus corpus.

All that is conspiracy theory. Total tin-foil territory.

Until it happens.

And just like the stolen elections in 2000 and 2004, because Americans didn't believe in conspiracy theories, they were caught flat footed and just rolled over. The Rethugs stuck a fork in those elections and they were done.

The halcyon days of "If we leave the government alone (to run drugs, steal elections, conduct political coups across the globe), then they will leave us alone"--are quickly coming to an end.

Please take a moment to view Miller's video and listen to his warnings. Our democracy may depend upon it.

"See ya in Gitmo." -- Keith Olbermann to Jonathan Turley


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/31/123527/800
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. It's interesting to see how events radicalized him
His first book, Bush Dyslexicon, was really mostly about Bush's malapropisms -- but also about what his misstatements revealed about his underlying psychology and character.

Only then did he seem to begin focusing on elections. As a media professor, his expertise really is not elections, but language and propoganda and media.

Because the mainstream media and even part of the progressive movement dismisses the idea that either 2000 or 2004 was stolen as "conspiracy theory," one suspects he is careful not to do the same to theories he has not looked into closely and that could in his view be true if not proven.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. Not so: his much earlier book, Boxed In: The Culture of TV, is no valentine to corporate Americana
Re his views on 9/11, the paperback edition of Cruel & Unusual, Bush/Cheney's NWO, contains his views on how critics chose to smear and dismiss his book by "implying that this book chiefly deals with the Bush regime's collusion in the terrorist attacks on 9/11. It was a misleading suggestion, as the book merely touches on that issue in a brief aside, and with carefulness not evident in the {critic's} quotation. Because the simmering controversy over 9/11 seldom has been mentioned be the U.S. media, it tends to seem far-fetched to those Americans not tracking it."

There's more, of course, and in the original segment, he does seem to suggest LIHOP for the obvious advantages such an attack would provide the U.S. govt. He also cites Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed, David Ray Griffin, and Paul Thompson, likewise providing the source/link for Paul's 9/11 timeline.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
3. Smart move getting that last book in before the elections
and the end of the CT gravy train.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Are you saying Mark is just an opportunist?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. When the Democrats win the election
Edited on Fri May-30-08 07:39 PM by hack89
and control all branches of the government, he will have to find something else to write about. Shall we look at his books to see if we can find a common theme?

Loser Take All: Election Fraud and The Subversion of Democracy

Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They'll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them)

The Bush Dyslexicon: Observations on a National Disorder (Norton)

Cruel and Unusual: Bush/Cheney's New World Order
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. And was there anything untrue in those books?
Edited on Fri May-30-08 07:48 PM by seemslikeadream
and do you think the end of corruption is near?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Have no clue
why are you so bothered? All I have done is admire his business acumen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Skinner, I believe is fond of him also
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:20 AM
Response to Original message
9. "We can't sit around and wait for the democrats who are enablers of the republicans."
Edited on Sat May-31-08 07:26 AM by Echo In Light
Thanks for posting. Mark is spot on as usual ... "There's a myth that they're incompetent, and I think that's a dangerous myth. When it comes to the subversion of democracy they're extremely skilled."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 04:56 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC