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Spitzer ‘Destroyed’ Over Threat To Probe 9/11 Attacks On US??
Could this be true??
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1077.htm

FSB reports circulating in the Kremlin today, however, point to a much more sinister effort behind the toppling of Governor Spitzer as he had just begun a new probe into Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center brought down in the September 11, 2001 attacks upon the US, and the Bush Families Carlyle Group.

The focus of Governor Spitzer’s investigation, these reports state, revolve around the growing crisis embroiling the Carlyle Group as it nears total collapse and is facing insolvency due to Larry Silverstone’s withdrawal of over $14 billion from the embattled groups coffers, and which could see the loss to New York States already troubled massive pension fund of over $10 billion.

Governor Spitzer has long battled with the former comptroller for New York States Pension Fund, Alan G. Hevesi, who holds duel Israeli-American citizenship, and prompted a US Federal Probe that charged Comptroller Hevesi of using the over $100 billion of funds entrusted to him for the personal benefit of his friends and family, and to which Mr. Hevesi pled guilty for and paid a $5,000 fine.

Prior to his taking office as New York States Governor, these reports continue, Mr. Spitzer, as a prosecutor, had long targeted the United States Banking System for their vast theft of money from the American people, and had won billions in judgments against Bear Stearns, Credit Suisse First Boston, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan Chase, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Salomon Smith Barney and UBS Warburg.
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   * MIHOP  Dinger   Mar-13-08 01:07 AM   #1 
   tinfoil  JI7   Mar-13-08 01:09 AM   #2 
   I have trouble believing that report.  dbonds   Mar-13-08 01:11 AM   #3 
   Spitzer was NY Attorney General and then governor during the...  Eric J in MN   Mar-13-08 01:11 AM   #4 
   and explain how that made him cheat on his wife for thousands of dollars  JoeIsOneOfUs   Mar-13-08 01:12 AM   #5 
   MIHOP. LIHOP. IHOP.  fujiyama   Mar-13-08 01:22 AM   #6 
   Reralistically, in Bu*hworld, any enemy of the fascist state can be destroyed  Zorra   Mar-13-08 01:28 AM   #7 
   Turn down the gain on the paranoia meter.  TheWraith   Mar-13-08 02:20 AM   #16 
   Sorcha Faal is a notorious nut.  Jim Sagle   Mar-13-08 01:31 AM   #8 
   you'll find the tinfoil in aisle 4, sir... eom.  Duke Newcombe   Mar-13-08 01:32 AM   #9 
   don't get it  enid602   Mar-13-08 01:45 AM   #10 
   That's, uhhhh, quite the source you've got there...  SidDithers   Mar-13-08 02:02 AM   #11 
   It's true  Anarcho-Socialist   Mar-16-08 05:22 PM   #27 
   The link goes to a very strange website. Doesn't look reliable.  JDPriestly   Mar-13-08 02:04 AM   #12 
   No, it couldn't be true. That's a lunatic fringe site you're quoting.  TheWraith   Mar-13-08 02:05 AM   #13 
   Is it true that Silverstein is now being investigated by the state of New York???  Selatius   Mar-13-08 02:08 AM   #14 
   No, it's not. In fact, I can't find one accurate thing in that entire posting.  TheWraith   Mar-13-08 02:19 AM   #15 
   Forensic Economist, David Hawkins would be a better source  OKthatsIT   Mar-13-08 02:20 AM   #17 
   I do smell bullshit. This is not the Spitzer we knew...  JackRiddler   Mar-13-08 02:34 AM   #18 
   Bingo, good stuff.  dailykoff   Mar-16-08 09:32 PM   #30 
   Goldman Sachs had an important law case agaisnt its holdings  truedelphi   Mar-13-08 07:41 PM   #19 
   If you have evidence of this claim...  SDuderstadt   Mar-13-08 08:44 PM   #20 
   I forget if it involed tens of millions  truedelphi   Mar-14-08 03:14 AM   #21 
      You're going to have to come up with a much more credible source than this...  SDuderstadt   Mar-14-08 01:36 PM   #22 
         Sweetheart, at the time, I mean going back to January 2002  truedelphi   Mar-14-08 02:29 PM   #23 
            In other words, you have ZERO proof of your claim...  SDuderstadt   Mar-14-08 09:17 PM   #25 
   Look at this nifty Google search tool...LAWSUITS  OKthatsIT   Mar-16-08 05:09 PM   #26 
      Funny....  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-08 09:37 PM   #31 
   I thought he was a friend of Silverstien's  bambino   Mar-14-08 05:36 PM   #24 
   It reads like a parody website  Anarcho-Socialist   Mar-16-08 05:25 PM   #28 
   First, Mark Spitzer...  SDuderstadt   Mar-16-08 07:45 PM   #29 
 
Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:07 AM
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1. * MIHOP
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 01:08 AM by Dinger
9-11, and Spitzer was on to them. Believe it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:09 AM
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2. tinfoil
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dbonds (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:11 AM
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3. I have trouble believing that report.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:11 AM
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4. Spitzer was NY Attorney General and then governor during the...
...6 1/2 years after September 11, 2001.

If he were going to expose something about the attack, he had plenty of time in power to do so.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 AM
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5. and explain how that made him cheat on his wife for thousands of dollars
while signing legislation increasing penalties against clients of prostitutes, and after having busted prostition rings as AG? Sure, tell Silda 9/11 conspiracies made him do it.
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fujiyama (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:22 AM
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6. MIHOP. LIHOP. IHOP.
It still doesn't explain him getting horny and wanting to do some high priced hooker.

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Zorra (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 AM
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7. Reralistically, in Bu*hworld, any enemy of the fascist state can be destroyed
through devised or altered technology, without possibility of recourse. Anything can be falsified in this day and age.

If anyone disagrees with this statement, please post the the reasons why you disagree.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:20 AM
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16. Turn down the gain on the paranoia meter.
Unless you really think Spitzer confessed to a crime he didn't commit because of mind-control rays or whatever.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:31 AM
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8. Sorcha Faal is a notorious nut.
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:32 AM
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9. you'll find the tinfoil in aisle 4, sir... eom.
Duke
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 01:45 AM
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10. don't get it
What does the author mean by 'the Bush Families Carlyle Group?' Does he mean 'the Bush family/Carlyle Group?' 'The Bush family's Carlyle Group?' 'The Bush families' Carlyle Group?' I don't get it.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:02 AM
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11. That's, uhhhh, quite the source you've got there...
Other headlines from whatdoesitmean.com...

US Prepares For ‘Doomsday’ Rule As British Forces Arrive In America
Canadian Troops To Patrol US Cities As Food Riots Feared
Age of Chaos Returns…And No One Gets Out Alive

:rofl:

Sid
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 05:22 PM
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27. It's true
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 05:22 PM by Anarcho-Socialist
We've always considered those American colonies to be under rebellion against the Crown. Back into the Empire the Americans go.
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12. The link goes to a very strange website. Doesn't look reliable.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:05 AM
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13. No, it couldn't be true. That's a lunatic fringe site you're quoting.
Off to the dungeon where this crap belongs.
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:08 AM
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14. Is it true that Silverstein is now being investigated by the state of New York???
Regardless of the source, it's either true or not. Shooting the messenger does nothing if it came out Silverstein is being investigated.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:19 AM
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15. No, it's not. In fact, I can't find one accurate thing in that entire posting.
Silverstein isn't under investigation, he has nothing to do with the Carlyle Group, which has a worth of 75 billion, so they wouldn't be hurting too bad if they lost 14. Also, if anybody thinks that Alan Hevesi spent $100 billion of taxpayer money on his family I've got a bridge to sell you.
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:20 AM
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17. Forensic Economist, David Hawkins would be a better source
I think he's at www.hawkscafe.com
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Mar-13-08 02:34 AM
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18. I do smell bullshit. This is not the Spitzer we knew...Updated at 1:46 PM
Spitzer filed an amicus brief on behalf of Silverstein's argument in the WTC insurance cases that the September 11th crashes constituted not one but two events under New York State law, and that Silverstein was therefore entitled to double the payout.

Spitzer also mediated to arrange the final settlement on the insurance claims last year. He and his campaign contributer Silverstein appeared to be buddy-buddy.

Spitzer's office acknowledged in October 2004 the receipt of the 2004 "Justice for 9/11" citizens' complaint and petition citing probable cause and calling for a criminal investigation or grand jury to examine unsolved crimes relating to September 11th, including allegations of possible government complicity.

http://Justicefor911.org

They never responded to this initiative.

An important Spitzer staffer, Dietrich Snell, worked for the 9/11 Commission before joining the Attorney General's staff in 2004. Snell appears to have been one of the lead writers of the 9/11 Commission Report. While on the 9/11 Commission staff, he was the one who heard the claims of the Able Danger whistleblowers, five military personnel and contracters who stepped forward to say that their surveillance operation had in 1999 and 2000 located Mohamed Atta and three other alleged ringleader-hijackers of the 9/11 attacks as members of an al-Qaeda "Brooklyn Cell" plotting an attack in the United States. The Able Danger operatives' request to pass this information to the FBI was blocked by their superiors at Socom in Florida, their program was shut down, and the most prominent officer making the claims, Anthony Shaeffer, was suspended from duty due to an internal Pentagon investigation into charges that he had overcharged for phone bills by $67 and stolen pens. Snell was reportedly the 9/11 Commission staffer who rejected an investigation into the matter.

In 2006, when a Congressional subcommittee wanted Snell to testify on the 9/11 Commission's refusal to investigate the Able Danger story, Spitzer stepped in and said he would refuse to allow Snell to testify.

In short, there is no indication that Spitzer was interested in investigating September 11, despite ample occasion and opportunity due to his offices to aid the cause of truth, justice and disclosure.
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 09:32 PM
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30. Bingo, good stuff.
Spitzer was never one to question the official 911 story, and he never would have made it to the statehouse if he had.
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19. Goldman Sachs had an important law case agaisnt its holdings
Thathad to do with plundering sotck holders gold reserves (If my memory is right)

The lawsuit went away when the Towers cruumbled.
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20. If you have evidence of this claim...
please provide it.
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21. I forget if it involed tens of millions
Or hundreds of millions (or more) of potentiallosses if the matter came to trial.

You can google "September 11th" + Goldman Sachs + gold

And see is what comes up

here is one such entry

http://tinyurl.com/ynvfhx
Gold and Money: Alan Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan & Co
(Prior to September 11 charges had been brought against Alan Greenspan (forgive me -- in a previous post I said "Milton Friedman" instead of Greenspan -- Friedman is a great and honest and honorable academic scholar and Nobel Prize winner -- who, very superficially, looks like Greenspan) -- at any rate, Alan Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan & Co. and other powerful American financial figures and institutions had charges brought against them -- reportedly a very well-documented case -- over the fixing of gold prices -- with evidence for that case also being stored by the FBI on the FBI floors of the WTC! These parties would not only profit heavily from the "carrot" of both oil and drug monies circulating through their great financial institutions, but they also would gain from avoiding the "stick" of one of the most threatening lawsuits ever to confront the U.S. financial
establishment (realize what a guilty verdict in this case would mean to these leading financial families and to the Establishment in general!) -- these parties would welcome predictable and certainly substantial benefits from the destruction of the evidence in the WTC and of some of the witnesses and researchers on the case as well.)
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22. You're going to have to come up with a much more credible source than this...
For example, it links to other dubious websites as a way of "proving" its own dubious claims. Not very convincing. From your own source:

"Gold and Money: Alan Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan & Co
(Prior to September 11 charges had been brought against Alan Greenspan (forgive me -- in a previous post I said "Milton Friedman" instead of Greenspan -- Friedman is a great and honest and honorable academic scholar and Nobel Prize winner -- who, very superficially, looks like Greenspan) -- at any rate, Alan Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, Morgan & Co. and other powerful American financial figures and institutions had charges brought against them -- reportedly a very well-documented case -- over the fixing of gold prices -- with evidence for that case too stored by the FBI on the FBI floors of the WTC! These parties would not only profit heavily from the "carrot" of both oil and drug monies circulating through their great financial institutions, but they also would gain from avoiding the "stick" of one of the most threatening lawsuits ever to confront the U.S. financial establishment (realize what a guilty verdict in this case would mean to these leading financial families and to the Establishment in general!) -- these parties would welcome predictable and certainly substantial benefits from the destruction of the evidence in the WTC and of some of the witnesses and researchers on the case as well.)"

Notice that there is NO substantiation of anything. "Charges" brought against Alan Greenspan? Don't you think that charges brought against the Chairman of the Federal Reserve would merit attention from EVERY major newspaper? I think you ought to take whatever this source claims with a HUGE grain of salt. I think you've been duped.

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23. Sweetheart, at the time, I mean going back to January 2002
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 02:30 PM by truedelphi
There were hundreds of such citations.

In fact, just reading the business pages would probably have had you informed (back in the day)

My problem is that the 9/11 matters are only the hairs on the butt of a beast I don't like. Currently, I don't have all day to wade through what now comes up when you type in the key words. (In case you aren't reading thebusiness pages these days, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and CitiGroup and just about every player is involved in more low handed, down and dirty she-e-t that a drug runner in Harlem could ever envision.)

We now stand in a world where a 415 trillion dollar derivative market might unspring the underpinnings of our society. I don't care to research this abou tthe 9/11 happenings and the FBI files - you can go and sit in a library and find out if you want. I have a few other things on my plate, and unless someone is willing to PAY ME I don't care to spend time establishing this.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-14-08 09:17 PM
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25. In other words, you have ZERO proof of your claim...
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:17 PM by SDuderstadt
Here's an idea: don't make claims you can't substantiate.
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26. Look at this nifty Google search tool...LAWSUITS
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31. Funny....
and not one case like what the other poster claims.
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24. I thought he was a friend of Silverstien's
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28. It reads like a parody website
The authors are either comedic geniuses or insane.
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29. First, Mark Spitzer...
now Eliot Spitzer. Omigod, someone has it in for the Spitzers! I'm series!!111! This is hugh!!111!!
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