BBC News responds to video showing their early report of WTC-7's collapse.

[mhatrw]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html

4. We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another.

5. If we reported the building had collapsed before it had done so, it would have been an error - no more than that.

That's it? The BBC's own 9/11 report that the WTC-7 has collapsed clearly shows WTC-7 still standing right behind the reporter -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc -- and this is the BBC's entire response: "We have no idea what happened or why, but if we did it, then it must have been an innocent mistake"?

That's journalism? That's the best the BBC can do on its own report about its own 9/11 coverage?

[fooj]

1. Simply "an error"...WTF?

:eyes:

[Bolo Boffin]

2. Why did you start a second thread on this? n/t

[mhatrw]

3. This thread is about the BBC's response, not the BBC's initial 9/11 report.

Note the OP.

[Bolo Boffin]

12. I'm sorry - why did you start a THIRD thread on the BBC's response?

I know exactly what you're talking about.

On edit: I just bumped the other two threads about the BBC's response. Note their OPs. Note the GD OPs.

[rocktivity]

4. the only possible way it could have been an "just an error"

is if ANOTHER building had collasped at that time, and they MISTAKENLY referred to it as building 7. So which WTC buildings collasped in what order? Let's see a timeline! That's the only way to settle this. "Cock-up, not conspiracy," my donkey!

rocknation

[BuyingThyme]

5. What the hell is cock-up?

[rocktivity]

6. It's the Brit equivalent of "screwup."

But if you believe that the British Broadcasting Company lost footage of the most pivotal day in modern history, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might want to to buy!

:headbang:
rocknation

[BuyingThyme]

7. Wow, that's really inconvenient for them.

What other tapes have they lost?

[truthpowertruth]

16. British use it to describe it

when the government and media stick their proverbial cock up your ass and laugh about it.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

8. Of All The Reasons To Believe Conspiracy, This Video Is Hands Down The Most Absurd And Misguided.

To make this work, the reporters and BBC would've had to have had advance knowledge; i.e. had been in on it. Despite how much reason there is to disbelieve the official story, for some to put forth a premise for a second that this video shows advance knowledge and that they were in on the conspiracy, is misguided foolishness at its best. I'm frankly amazed that there are those out there who lack critical thinking skills to the degree of actually using this as something substantial towards the concept 9/11 was an inside job. It's quite perplexing, actually.

[rocktivity]

10. The only thing I believe is that this needs to be EXPLAINED.

If it was a "mere" mistake, that should be easy enough to prove.

:headbang:
rocknation

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. They Did.

They said it was a mistake. That's obviously the only logical answer. Seems to me you will only except an explanation that aligns with your beliefs. Don't know what to tell ya.

[rocktivity]

15. But what KIND of a mistake? Why can't they EXPLAIN it?

:headbang:
rocknation

[truthpowertruth]

17. Who needs explanations these days?

This is a post-911 world. Just forget it. Move on. Go away. We'll protect you.

[mhatrw]

20. The dog ate their video. Plus, they refuse to answer on the grounds ...

[mhatrw]

19. Yeah. I guess that explains the Gore vs. Bush decision and everything that

came after as well. It was all just one big innocent mistake. No use questioning anything.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. ROFLMAO!!!!! How Funny Are YOU!!!! Where In The World Did You Grasp That Out Of?

I mean, it isn't even REMOTELY related. Wow, that response just cracked me up!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

21. How is this so "obviously the only logical answer"?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. Keep Thinking About It. You'll Figure It Out.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

29. Nice cop-out!

And in your manner of refutation... ROTFLMAO
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[Contrite]

33. Oh, it's too difficult for stupid little CTers. Won't you help?

My head hurts. Please explain it for us.

Because I MIGHT have accepted something along the lines of "we received information that it was about to collapse and we just presumed it already had. You can understand, in the frenzy surrounding the events of that day, how we might have gotten that wrong, don't you? And, how were we supposed to know that the building behind Jane was in fact the building we had just reported collapsed? After all, we're British!"

But THEN the problem remains of having to explain HOW it is that they were tipped off the building was going to collapse.

You see our dilemma, don't you?

[mhatrw]

18. That's ridiculous. What psychic gave them this report?

Why did they produce a report on the word of this psychic with the very building they were reporting on still clearly standing in the background?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

9. I love the way Richard Porter pretends that Jane Standley

was the one who reported the events which hadn't yet occurred.

It was that dude, wasn't it? What did Jane do other than play along with whatever the dude was saying?

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Nice avatar there, BT.

It gives exactly the right flavor to your comments.

Has it occurred to you that Jane was the source for what "that dude" was saying?

[BuyingThyme]

14. Yes, that has occurred to me. Do you have any evidence to back it up,

or are you making it up because it fits?

BTW: The avatar argument is one of your best. (Not kidding.)

[BuyingThyme]

26. Answer: Made it up.

The truth is once again trashed.

Why?

[Twist_U_Up]

30. A simple question for Jane.

Do you recall seeing that building fall mere minutes after your feed was interrupted?
When did you realize that you just saw the building collapse which you just reported had already collapsed?

[BuyingThyme]

31. Yes. There's no way she missed that.

These people are not very good liars.

[StrictlyRockers]

25. I call bullshit on the BBC and their excuses. n/t

[rocktivity]

27. Let's be fair--let's see how many REASONABLE explanations there are

1. The building seen in the background is not 7WTC
2. Another building in the area collapsed at 4:59PM on 9/11 and was misidentified as 7WTC
3. A decision was made to do the report against a fabricated backdrop, like on The Daily Show



Those are perfectly reasonable explanations. Take one, BBC--please!

:headbang:
rocknation

[StrictlyRockers]

28. WE WISH!

Nothing even remotely close to reasonable was offered by way of excuses.

The least the Beeb could have done was to throw the OCTers a bone to cling on to. Nope. Nothing. Nothing even remotely reasonable.

The government apologists are left scrambling and clutching at threads and straws to invent lame excuses out of whole cloth. Oh, and they are getting really creative, too, because they have no choice.

I like these active imaginations. We need people to think WAY outside the box like this so that we can consider ALL possibilities...like the blue/green screen theory, the GMT EST ESD IST MET time theory, or the theory that it happened after the fact before it really happened. What other theories are they supporting? The "it was bound to fall sooner or later due to the severe fires on the south side" theory and the BBC had to get the scoop from CNN theory.

Nope, nothing remotely reasonable yet...still waiting.

SR

[Bolo Boffin]

32. The perfectly reasonable explanation is the one offered: it was a mistake. n/t

[rocktivity]

34. "The footage on the internet is a hoax" is a reasonable explanation.

"We made a mistake" is a copout.

:headbang:
rocknation

[mhatrw]

35. The dog ate our video and it was all just a dream! n/t

[StrictlyRockers]

36. We left the video in our jeans pocket while we were doing the wash. Oops!