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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:21 PM
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Photo we didn't see from Abut Graib....
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:25 PM
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1. ????
I'm having a hard time believing that photo was taken in Abut Ghraib prison. Looks way to clean to me.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:31 PM
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Oh really....?
Or are you in denial that its very possible that this photo is
REAL?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:02 PM
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11. No
Edited on Tue May-25-04 08:03 PM by LARED
Are you in denial that the photo is not real or that it means something entirely different than you are implying?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:26 PM
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2. if it is real
it is from the "just when you thought it couldn't get any worse" department.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:27 PM
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3. Sorry, I don't understand....
...Is it the tattoo of the Star of David that should trouble us? Or are we to assume something sinister about the tattoos symbolism that is a problem? Please explain.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:30 PM
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4. There have been NUMEROUS reports....
that there were several Israeli "agents" present within the prison
where the tortures were conducted. In some cases, they were
"instructing" our troops in the finer methods of human torture and
humiliation...

Need I go on....?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:33 PM
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7. Read there were also reports of ISI
Agents, as well as Sourht Africans, and others, all EMPLOYEES of the companies runnign the show CACI AND TITAN...those companies are RESPONSIBLE to a single State Actor, that is the United States, is this clear enough?

Oh and if YOU THINK we have not picked up a trick or two since we started playing in the sand box over the last almost seventy years, then yuo assume we are that stupid (for the recrod we really started playing hard ball in the sandbox in 1940)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:31 PM
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5. Once again
those are GANG symbols.

The Mossad is not that stupid

Oh and you ARE walking into the Straussian intent, congrats
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:31 PM
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6. Mossad? Who said ANYTHING about Mossad...?
:shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:34 PM
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8. You have misssed the previous discvusions of that
photo being posted.

Those are Gang Markings, sorry... beter luck going over to a police
Gang intelligence unit, for the Lovos gang... try the southland
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:36 PM
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9. Look it up...
Jews are NOT to get tattoos. If they get one, they can be denied burial on Jewish consecrated ground. This is one of the reasons that the Nazis tattooed numbers on prisoners.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:54 PM
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10. Tattooed Jews .
The reasons Jews are getting tattooed are as varied as the designs they proudly and often defiantly display.

Riqi Kosovske, 35, a third-year rabbinical student at the Reform movements Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion in Los Angeles, has a hamsa tattooed on her ankle. A Middle Eastern and Jewish good-luck symbol featuring an open hand, the marking epitomizes her conflict between traditional Judaism and creative, expressive spirituality.

Its also a constant reminder of her struggle.

When she got the tattoo, she was leaving freewheeling Berkeley and her life as a Jewish educator for a new beginning in Israel and rabbinical school.

Something about the hamsa feels very connected to me, adds Kosovske, who is now a student rabbi at Congregation Shir Ami in Castro Valley. I wanted some kind of proof to myself that what I was going through was a real spiritual struggle, that it wasnt some little phase

Marking that permanently spoke to me. When the pain goes away, you have something beautiful, she says.

Beautiful, yes, but at the same time, because she is training to be a rabbi, there is a part of her that is ambivalent about it. There are many things in the Torah that I dont agree with 100 percent or dont fit with me, she says. You really have to check in with yourself and check in with God.
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystor...
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:24 AM
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12. Locking
See:

http://it.news.yahoo.com/040509/38/2s3z9.html

A prisoner, who said he was a Moroccan Jew, shows off his tattoos at the Abu Ghraib Prison on the outskirts of Baghdad, Iraq, late Saturday, May 8, 2004. Military police said that he was being housed in a private cell, instead of one of the large tent compounds outside, to protect him from other prisoners, because of his religion. (AP Photo/John Moore)

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