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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:32 PM
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Palestinian Conference at DUKE - Strategies being taught NOW 10-16
As completely expected, speakers at the PSM (Palestinian Solidarity Movement) conference whitewashed the Palestinian terrorist groups..and said that: terrorist groups like HAMAS and ISLAMIC JIHAD are a result of the creation of Israel...

INFILTRATING THE ORGANIZED JEWISH GROUPS THROUGH HILLEL
(TO HILLELS CREDIT IT IS A DEMOCRACY!!! But look at this plan to manipulate....)
HIllel is a good way to infiltrate the organized Jewish community on campus.....that because Hillel is a democracy...... Hillel makes it easy to get involved...Some Hillels have brought refusniks to speak... so it will be easy to get "in" and get on their boards...."take a position on their boards" ....That Hillel's guiding principles agree with Zionism but that different viewpoints are encouraged (that differ from Zionism) so get inside....and control the debate

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RADICAL THOUGHTS (our name for it, not theirs, obviously...)
By NASSER ABUFARHA--author of the Alternative Palestinian Agenda, and doctoral candidate of Cultural Anthropology of the University of Wisconsin
Some of his thoughts:
Israel, THE COLONY....is not supported by any other state but by a Jewish population all around the world...
The very IDEA of a Jewish state is the problem.
There should be no talk of a Jewish state.
Ending the occupation will NOT end the struggle.
Pulling out tanks will not end the struggle
The STRUGGLE is to END the state of Israel.
We should not be expected to give up our country to MAKE ROOM FOR ISRAEL
Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah... are not radical groups... they are the logical outcome of the establishment of a Jewish state on Arab land.
PFLP (One of Arafats original terrorist groups)
is a leftist group....its only a liberal group. Not a radical group...
Challenge the very notion of the Jewish state.
Zionism is incompatible with a two state solution.... the two state solution can never work....


DIANA BUTTU stressed that the 1967 war was not a defensive war, that Israel was the aggressor in 1967. She sourced an Israeli historian... Avi Shliam....as her source...
Bus 19 is evidence of occupation.
Two state solution is not possible.
Israel is the problem.

http://www.standwithus.com/news_post.asp?NPI=138

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check out link
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:36 PM
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1. My all-time favorite....
"There should be no talk of a Jewish state.
Ending the occupation will NOT end the struggle.
Pulling out tanks will not end the struggle
The STRUGGLE is to END the state of Israel.



yeah.....tell me something i dont know.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:38 PM
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2. Why are you so mean to the Dukes of Hazzard?
Just the good ol' boys,
Never meanin' no harm,
Beats all you've ever saw, been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.

Straight'nin' the curve,
Flat'nin' the hills.
Someday the moutain might get 'em, but the law never will.

Makin' their way,
The only way they know how,
That's just a little bit more than the law will allow.

Just good ol' boys,
Wouldn't change if they could,
Fightin' the system like a true modern day Robin Hood.

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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:38 PM
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3. yet another piece of trash
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 08:40 PM by Djinn
sourced from ihatearabs.com.

These people are STILL pushing the terrorists use UN ambulance's story which even the Israeli government has given up on.

Any chance you could post from a liberal/progressive or even respectable right wing source anytime soon don?

And to save you time posting the inevitabvle "waah shoot the messenger" inanity - well when the messenger is a prejudiced manipulative liar then yep - will happily shoot.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:48 PM
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4. Deny, deny,deny.
Deny the truth.
Deny the reality.
Deny the facts.

And above all, dont comment on the article.

As you wish....any article that doesnt walk in lockstep must be
right wing.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:18 PM
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5. OMT...
Our Mission is Education
In this moment of crisis for Israel and the entire Jewish people, we have come together from different affiliations, organizations, and communities to form StandWithUs. Our goal is to insure that Israel's side of the story is accurately told, through powerful, fact based materials, alerts, speakers, and conferences. This will be our way of communicating our profound solidarity with, (and appreciation for) the people of Israel, their quest for peace, and the beauty of their democratic values.


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cant get more "right wing" than that.


They sure fooled me.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:15 PM
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6. I don't comment on the articles
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 11:17 PM by Djinn
you continuously source from groups that are unashamedly biased - no

This group repeats lies even the IDF has given up, if they really were interested in the truth they'd be speaking about the violence at the hands of BOTH sides not just one, yet I see nothing about Palestinian kids shot 20 times on their way to school?

Reading their stuff you'd tink the only people who've been killed in the history of this conflict are Jews.

You know it's absolute bullshit to say that I apply this to any source I disagree with - I've repeatedly said that while I wouldn't buy JPost I have no problem with it as a source - this is not even of the JPost's dubious journalistic standards

In short this source is utter trash, although slightly better at hiding their hatred than certain other dubious "news' sites posted here.

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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:59 AM
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8. This wasn't even an article...
If this sort of amatuerish internet crap is going to be classified as news or op/ed in this forum, this atheist will have to say a prayer tonight for the sorry state of the world...

And, yes. I've seen you repeatedly make the point that you have no problems with JPost as a source, but as with yr pointing out that Israel has used ambulances, and me pointing out that the PSM do NOT support terrorism (see below and multiple times in an earlier thread), it appears selective blindness sets in when something is posted that doesn't gel with what can be seen as a rather extremist take on the conflict....

Watch this trick! It's so cool! I'll post this YET again, and within a few threads, someone will leave a post saying that the PSM haven't said they don't support terrorism...

Q: Does the PSM support terrorism?

A: The PSM does not support or endorse terrorism. We employ peaceful, non-violent tactics to bring to an end the violence and organized terror inflicted on the Palestinian people by the Israeli government, as it is being funded by US tax money.


http://palestineconference.com/resources/faq.html

Violet...
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:45 AM
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7. PSM refuses to condemn terrorism.....
and why should they when they tacitly approve it.

Dead jews are just a means to an end.


"The STRUGGLE is to END the state of Israel." ( no fooling ? )

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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:57 AM
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9. Locking
Source is unknown, posted site is a vanity site.

Lithos
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