Initial report: Hamas leader Rantisi killed in IAF strike

[drdon326]

According to initial reports, Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi was killed in an Israeli helicopter missile strike on his car Saturday evening.

Two other people were killed in the strike, witnesses said.

A burned, destroyed car was left on the road near Rantisi's house and one badly burned body was removed from the car by paramedics. Witnesses said there were three people in the car at the time.

Palestinians ran into the street following the strike and called for revenge.

There was no immediate response from the IDF.

Rantisi was the newly-appointed head of the militant group in Gaza, following the assassination of Hamas founder and spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in a similar Israeli strike last month.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/416382.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Well the East Bank and Gaza will again explode

[drdon326]

2. Being a terrorist leader....

is not a long term career move.

[bpilgrim]

3. i feel safer already

are we there yet :shrug:

peace

[drdon326]

4. Not yet , bpilgrim....

but the Israeli population is getting there.

[bpilgrim]

8. the FACTS ON THE GROUND

looks pretty dismal... maybe we oughta hang a left :shrug:

peace

[displacedtexan]

5. Should have stayed in middle management.

Too much ambition will get you sooner or later.

[drdon326]

10. LOL

BUT of course there will be the cries of upsetting the
terrorists.

Definitely bad career move.

[drdon326]

6. On CNN....

They're "bagging" (football shaped respiratory device) him
in the hospital.

[wtmusic]

7. Finally--no more suicide bombs in Israel!

:eyes:

[Trajan]

9. You must be completely exultant ...

Hey: two down: Several million to go ...

Oh the joy ....

[Muddleoftheroad]

19. So you think there are several million Palestinian terrorists

Oh my...

[number6]

11. bad move

it won't help the situation ...

[mobuto]

12. Next?

Who wants to be the next leader of Hamas? Perhaps the only worse career move is the insurance agent who sells Hamas leaders their life insurance policies.

[gayboy]

13. The big honcho...

....lives in Syria...hes next?

[bluesoul]

14. When is

Sharon on turn?

[gayboy]

15. Why?

Sharon never sent a teenage Jewish girl to kill Rantisi.He never sent kids into a disco to blow up other kids dancing.He never sent kids to kill Rantisis aunt and her son buying pizza...and he never outlawed homosexuality.

Granted Israel would be better off with Shimon Peres or Ehud Barak or Mitznah..

But comparing him to this murderer is dishonest.

[Trajan]

16. Apologism for Sharon

Is just as disingenuous ....

Sharon is without a doubt complicit in the destruction of approximately 1800 live human beings in Sabra/Chatilla ...

This is no far fetched assertion; it is accepted public record ...

Accepted, that is, by those who do not the revel in death of their opponents children ....

[gayboy]

17. Who perpetrated the massacres at...

Sabra and Chatilla? Who did the killings...
Was it Israeli soldiers?
I always hear this from people who actually have no idea who commited these atrocities..
Was it the israeli soldiers?

[Trajan]

18. No time for history lessons here, boy ...

It should be noted that Hitler never 'personally' killed anyone ...

So; continue defending the right wing zealots of Likud here at DU, a forum for LEFT thinking human beings ....

Like a fish outta water ....

[gayboy]

23. What are you saying?

try attack the arguments......and not me....

[newyorican]

30. he did more than attack your so-called arguement...

he eviscerated it...as evidenced by the spluttering reply.

[gayboy]

31. You should read more arguments and forums...

Its obvious that you need more experience in discerning good ones from so so average ones....good luck though.

:bounce:

[gayboy]

24. ``Like a fish outa water`` ??

Superiority complex?
I AM a left wing gay guy....maybe YOU should check out the PA/Hamas policy towards homosexuals...its very left wing too.

[Darranar]

22. What about the bombardment of Beirut?

Random slaughter of innocent civilians is terrorism, in my mind, as well as illegal.

So Sharon is a war criminal and a terrorist. Would you cheer his assasination?

[Name removed]

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[tinnypriv]

21. One wonders

If the Tzar's apologists ever sank this low.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. That is outrageous

The LEBANESE murdered the men, women, and children of Sabra and Shatila. They did it out of well-deserved.

The men, women and children of Sabra and Shatila deserved to be hated? Wow, that's hatred, alright.

And you're right, Sharon didn't lift a finger. He had the authority to lift a finger and prohibit Major Haddid and his thugs from entering the camp. He didn't lift a finger.

And because he didn't lift a finger, he is complicit in the murder that ensued.

Sharon has since claimed that he had no idea what Haddid's men were going to do. The Kahane Commission stated flatly Sharon's defense was hard to believe.

[gayboy]

26. That is all true....

And disgusting.....
Sharon should not be in public office....

but it was NOT the Jews who did the massacaring and it is not the Israelis or Sharon who should be labelled as war criminals....

It is the people (Lebanese/phalanges) who commited these atrocities that should be held responsible....

[Lithos]

28. It's a bit more complicated than that

Following the evacuation of the armed members of the PLO per the peace plan, the Israeli Army cordoned off the camps so that they completely controlled access, prohibiting people from entering and leaving the camps. The only way the Lebanese Forces (Phalangists) could have entered the camp would have been with the permission of Sharon who was the General in charge of the operation.

And if that were not enough, the massacre occured over a 48 hour period of time. During this time, Sharon was made VERY aware of the situation, yet chose to do nothing. The news even reached the US envoy who had brokered the cease-fire agreement, Morris Draper, whose direct pleas to Sharon to act to stop the bloodshed were ignored.

It is obvious Sharon was fully aware of what was going on and deliberately allowed the Phalangists full access to the camps. It was also Sharon who deliberately allowed it to continue when he was the only one who could have stopped it.

Any attempt to claim innocence through ignorance is obscene given the extreme culpability of Sharon's actions. He knew about it, he allowed it, he could have stopped it at any time.

L-

[Darranar]

29. Sharon is a war criminal for other reasons, too...

Sabra and Shatila weren't the only war crimes during the invasion of Lebanon.

[Lithos]

32. True

There were such things as the targeted demolition of homes (civilian) occupied by Palestinians during the initial advance. They only stopped when the Maronites thought such destruction wasteful (they wanted the homes).

It was one of Sharon's and Begin's goals to push the Palestinians out of Lebanon, or if failing that, at least from Southern Lebanon. In so doing, what was initially billed as an incursion to disrupt the Fatah irregulars from attacks on Northern Israel into an ever increasing sweep of Southern and Central Lebanon to push all Palestinians northward.

This was one of the reasons why Palestinian resistance was so stiff and why Lebanon turned into Israel's Vietnam. It was also the reason why Begin limited Kahane's charter to only Sabra and Shatila to avoid exposing the bigger picture of which Sabra and Shatila were just a climax.

L-

[Noon_Blue_Apples]

27. I think a 3 year old , sorry Bush, could get this

when he is not embarrassed by a source it is presented up front.

Obvious right wing propaganda is hidden in a link

nothing like courage of conviction

something i learned from king