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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:40 PM
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Former President Katsav enters Israel prison, begins 7-year term
Addressing the media outside his Kiryat Malakhi home, Katsav accuses court of wrongly convicting him, saying: Today an innocent man is executed in Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/former-president-k...

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"Former President Moshe Katsav began a seven-year prison sentence on Wednesday, following his conviction of two counts of rape and other sexual offenses.

The former president was accompanied by family members, entering the Ma'asiyahu facility at 10:08 A.M.

Prior to arriving at the central-Israel prison, Katsav addressed media representatives outside his Kirayt Malakhi home, where he accused the court of wrongly convicting him, saying that in Israel "a man is executed today without proof or evidence."

"A man is executed today because the court chose not to believe 20 real-time witnesses, instead taking the word of 20 witnesses speaking after the fact," the former president said, adding: "One day you'll see that you have buried a man alive."

"Proof for my future acquittal already awaits within my appeal documents," Katsav added."
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 02:14 AM
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1. Thanks for following this sex scandal for us.
:thumbsup:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:22 AM
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2. This poster is always on top of that sort of thing
Glad to see justice was done in this case.
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 02:13 PM
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3. Yep
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 02:25 PM
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4. really can you point out other threads 'this poster' has started on the general topic of sex scandal
or has this poster merely kept up with one scandal in Israel?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 04:05 PM
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5. Also, since when has rape merely been a 'sex scandal'?
I know some portions of the media called it that, but the rape of two women isn't a scandal, it's a serious crime that causes massive damage for the victims.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 04:49 PM
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7. It is indeed a serious crime
The phrase "sex scandal" does not do it justice, I agree.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 04:48 PM
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6. Too numerous to list
Here's a random sampling from over the years:

IDF probes huge sex scandal (2006)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

No criminal charges for Air Force soldiers who slept with minor (2006)

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p...

Ramon found guilty of sexual harassment (2007)

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p...

Councilman takes own life in sex abuse scandal (2007)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

With sex and Israeli connection, echoes of McGreevey in Spitzer controversy (2008)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Sex abuse claims against famed rabbi grip Israel (2010)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Abbas aide in sex tape scandal urged to quit (2010)

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard...

U.S. rabbi involved in sex scandal led fight against non-Haredi conversions in Israel (2010)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Mostly the focus has been on sexual scandals in Israel but there are some US and Palestinian ones mixed in there as well.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 04:50 PM
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8. Considering Scurry's posted hundreds, if not thousands of OPs over the years, what's the problem?
Sorry, but I'm not seeing what the problem is here...
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 04:53 PM
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9. I never said there was a problem
Edited on Sat Dec-10-11 04:55 PM by oberliner
All I said was that this poster is generally on top of this sort of story, which, I think is pretty evidently true.

Edit to add:

The poster to whom I replied denied that this was true and asked for evidence, so I provided it.

There are certain topics that I am pretty on top of myself. Like whenever Hamas does something unpleasant, I usually manage to post an article about it. Wouldn't bother me if someone pointed out that I was on top of Hamas behaving badly (as folks have, some less politely than others).
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 05:00 PM
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10. Fair enough n/t
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 07:25 PM
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12. oh so that was your point? that this poster is ah well informed? or keeps us up ?
I see
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:18 PM
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14. No, my point was that this subject is of particular interest to that poster
He is always on top of those sorts of stories is what I wrote.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 11:31 PM
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19. I don't agree with that...
You pulled out a few OPs out of what have been hundreds or even thousands over the years here. I'm sure I've posted a few on issues like sexual abuse myself, but so what?

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 07:23 PM
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11. so you actually went back 5 years? ooookay that in itself says something n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:18 PM
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13. What does it say?
I did a search in response to your request and posted the results that came up.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:22 PM
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15. seems you were particulary anxious to prove something concerning another DUer
Edited on Sat Dec-10-11 08:22 PM by azurnoir
or perhaps a couple of DUer's? seeing as how Scurrilous has posted hundreds of threads, can you give what percentage of this DUer's threads are about so called 'sex scandals'?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 08:53 PM
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16. You asked a question
Edited on Sat Dec-10-11 08:54 PM by oberliner
Here's what it was:

"can you point out other threads 'this poster' has started on the general topic of sex scandal"

I did so. It was very simple and quick. There were lots of them. I posted links to a bunch.

Calculating percentages of one type of post versus another is way more work than I am willing to do. If you are interested in that, you are on your own.
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 10:22 PM
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17. Why do you have a problem with the posting of sex scandals?
There is no rule limiting the amount of posts having to do with sex scandals one can post, so why would you need percentages?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 11:29 PM
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18. The rape of two women isn't a 'sex scandal'. That's minimising it...
Calling something like that a sex scandal is making it look like it was something salacious as though it was nothing more than an office affair. It was far more than that, it was a serious crime...

Listen, I don't give a fuck who posts how many OPs on what. I'm not obsessed enough to take notice, coz I don't care....
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