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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:06 PM
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Without peace talks, Israel must leave East Jerusalem alone
Discussions on Jerusalem were postponed to a later stage of the final-status negotiations, but it was never agreed that this interlude be exploited to create facts on the ground.

Haaretz Editorial

As the diplomatic process has sunk deeper into hibernation, acts whose sole purpose is to tighten Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem have multiplied. Thus even as the Palestinians have given the Quartet a proposal on security arrangements and permanent borders in the West Bank, Israel is advancing proposals to change the master plans of neighborhoods over the Green Line.

On Tuesday, Nir Hasson reported in Haaretz that Jerusalem's regional planning and building committee had submitted a plan to create a national park near Mount Scopus. At the same time, the National Security Council discussed the King's Garden plan for the slopes below the Old City. Moreover, work began recently on a new interchange as part of a project to link Jerusalem's northeastern neighborhoods to the Western part of the city and give them direct access to Route 443.

All this activity in East Jerusalem is being accompanied by claims that throw sand in the public's eyes. A good example is the claim that the eastern slope of Mount Scopus "has importance from the standpoint of landscape, archaeology and nature." It's hard to believe that the elected officials who are pushing this plan have overlooked the area's political and demographic significance. Expropriating land in that area would limit the development of the Palestinian neighborhoods of Issawiyeh and A-Tur. And strangling these neighborhoods would encourage illegal construction and increase hostility toward Israel.

The King's Garden plan, which entails demolishing 22 houses to create a new tourist attraction, is similarly wrapped in a veil of innocence. Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat claims that the plan benefits Palestinian residents because it includes granting permits to 66 illegal buildings in the neighborhood. But Barkat is presumably aware of the tensions in this neighborhood due to the ongoing effort by right-wing organizations to "Judaize" the Old City and its environs. As for the decision to pave the new road in the city's northeast, it was accompanied by the lame excuse that the road will also serve the area's Palestinian residents.

in full: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/without-pe...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:19 PM
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1. Absolutely
Any further settlement construction there OR in the rest of the West Bank is an expression of support for perpetual war. The only way to get peace is to STOP any further encroachments on Palestinian land. Why is this so hard to accept?
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:19 PM
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2. Or, conversely...
Israel should agree to no slowdown in settlement building until the Palestinians sit down to Peace Talks in good faith.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:32 PM
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3. So you support settlement building and the demolition of Palestinian homes? n/t
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 10:47 PM by azurnoir
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holdencaufield Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:20 PM
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4. No more than I supported...
... the evictions of Jews from THEIR homes and the destruction of Jewish synagogues and historical artifacts under the Jordanian occupation of Jerusalem.

Frankly, if the PA is going to keep up the pressure to attack and de-legitimize Israel, then I think settlement building is a proportional and less violent response. What other weapons would you like to see Israel use against the PA?

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:07 AM
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6. exactly how is the PA attacking and delegitimizing Israel?
the PA has diplomatically 'attacked' Israel and is seeking to delegitimize Israel's occupation of Palestine so Israel itself is not being delegitimized at all unless one equates that occupation with all of Israel
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:43 PM
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5. If it is in Jerusalem it is not settlement building.
And it is supported 100%
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