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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 02:49 PM
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Panetta, Clinton and Gutman—Israel tsuris for the Obama administration
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"There is a lot of anger all around in recent days over various remarks made by Obama administration officials.

The Anti-Defamation League is angry about Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s remarks at this year’s Saban Forum:

We are deeply troubled by the message sent by Secretary Panetta at precisely a moment when the region is so volatile and uncertain. The Defense Secretary emphasized the shared U.S. and Israeli interest in deepened strategic cooperation and in countering the Iranian threat. But he undermined the sense of assurance that this could have projected by using a prestigious public platform to focus disproportionate responsibility on Israel for the campaign of hostility against her.


Some Israeli Cabinet ministers are angry about Hillary Clinton’s reported remarks at the Saban Forum:

Several Israeli government ministers on Sunday sharply responded to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over her critical comments on the status of women in Israel and Knesset bills that would restrict left-wing organizations.

Speaking to a closed forum in Washington on Saturday, Clinton criticized recent legislative attempts in Israel to restrict left-wing organizations and expressed shock over growing discrimination against Israeli women. She mentioned cases of IDF soldiers leaving during performances of female singers and the fact that females sit in the back of buses in certain places in Israel. Clinton said that some of these phenomena reminded her of Iran.


(The ADL, however, is angry about some of the same things that Clinton is angry about.)"

http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2011/12/05/309057...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:08 PM
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1. I do find this odd.
Edited on Mon Dec-05-11 03:09 PM by bemildred
On the one hand we are regularly reminded that objecting to Israeli policies can be disguised anti-semitism.
On the other hand, to point out that objection to Israeli poliicy is linked to anti-semitism is to invite angry abuse.
:think:
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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:30 PM
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3. Well said
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:21 PM
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2. Always controlling the message: ....disproportionate responsibility on Israel. n/t
Edited on Mon Dec-05-11 03:22 PM by Jefferson23
on edit for spelling.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:44 PM
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4. and yet when hillary is in the gulf or iran she happily hijabs up
And keeps her mouth shut about womens rights.

No, there are no double standards in the me, lol.

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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 03:49 PM
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5. Well it seems HRC did mention Iran in her statement
and your apparent 'outrage' over her wearing a hijab when in Muslim countries reminds me of similar 'outrage' over Nancy Pelosi doing so a few years back
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:00 PM
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6. im not the least bit outraged
But it would be great to hear someone of hillarys status talk about human rights when she is speaking IN these countries instead of DC.

Truth is she can't and anybody who follows the ME and gulf region knows it.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-11 04:32 PM
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7. But yet you considered HRC donning a hijab significant enough to be worthy of mention
why?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-11 05:25 AM
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8. What the hell's wrong with wearing a hijab?
I've known a few women who wear them, and there's nothing wrong with them. Are you confusing it with a burqa?
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