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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:32 PM
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TIME: Was Israel Behind a Deadly Explosion at an Iranian Missile Base?
From Time Magazine:
Israeli newspapers on Sunday were thick with innuendo, the front pages of the three largest dailies dominated by variations on the headline "Mysterious Explosion in Iranian Missile Base." Turn the page, and the mystery is answered with a wink. "Who Is Responsible for Attacks on the Iranian Army?" asks Maariv, and the paper lists without further comment a half-dozen other violent setbacks to Iran's nuclear and military nexus. For Israeli readers, the coy implication is that their own government was behind Saturday's massive blast just outside Tehran. It is an assumption a Western intelligence source insists is correct: the Mossad the Israeli agency charged with covert operations did it. "Don't believe the Iranians that it was an accident," the official tells TIME, adding that other sabotage is being planned to impede the Iranian ability to develop and deliver a nuclear weapon. "There are more bullets in the magazine," the official says.





"Don't believe the Iranians that it was an accident"

I'm asking you to literally read that above sentence again, LOL!

You know, Frank Wisner at the CIA coined the term "Mighty Wurlitzer" to describe how the CIA put out disinformation through media stooges and front organizations, implying that the media could be "played" like a giant Wurlitzer pipe organ to produce whatever song it wanted them to play.

Admittedly, it's often difficult to actually spot the Mighty Wurlitzer in action because of how much penetration the message machine has in American media. I'm going to stop the Wurlitzer for just a second a point out a few things:

:bluebox: Israel doesn't talk or gloat over covert victories and certainly not this soon after achieving them
:bluebox: The blast happened a few days ago and already Time has "officials" spilling the beans
:bluebox: Israel remains mum on other far-more-obvious assassinations, like those of scientists in the Iranian missile program
:bluebox: Over the last few days the Israeli media, all of which is strictly controlled by military censor, has been coyly implying Israel was behind it
:bluebox: Even the Israeli Defense Minister is getting into the act, winking and nudging about it

All just a few days after the blast happened.

My conclusion: This probably wasn't a covert action by Israel. I'm not even entirely convinced the death of General Hassan Moqaddam had any serious impact on the Iranian nuclear program at this stage of the game. Oh, Israel has carried out assassinations to further their goals but, as a rule, they don't put on party hats this soon and they certainly don't go breathlessly blabbing about it like giddy teenagers.

Now, Israel is free to imply they might have had something to do with it all they want. It certainly attempts to reestablish some of the ghostly aura that the Mossad lost after its assassins were exposed in exquisite detail in the death of Mahmoud al Mabhouh in Dubai.

As an added benefit, it also serves the bigger drum-beat because if it were a targeted assassination it would obviously be an act of war against Iran. Somehow riling the Iranians up into a first strike or first strike posture (so that Israel and/or America's military action would be a "response" and not a "pre-emptive strike") would greatly help bring about a scenario Israel has been demanding for a while now.

Otherwise, China and Russia aren't having any of it.

So there you go. Back to your regularly-scheduled programming.



PB
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:36 PM
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1. Well lets see if there is another "mysterious" event in next few days or weeks..
then we might have better clue what is going on.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:37 PM
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2. Ever since the overthrow of the Shah, there has been Low Intensity Conflict
US and Israeli special forces and intelligence services, and their proxies, have more or less continually engaged in covert operations inside of Iran for the last 32 years.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:38 PM
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3. Maybe Bibi convinced us to do it during one of his daily phone calls to you-know-who n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:49 PM
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7. "Mr. President, the man who shouts '1939' is on the phone again for you."
"Ah crap. Tell him to hold on, I'm on the other line. ... Hello President Sarkozy? Yeah, I have an urgent call on the other line...uh...I'm going to have to take it and I'll call you right back. It's..."

"...from the man who shouts '1939'?"

"Heh heh, look, it'll take about ten minutes and once he's off my leg I'll give you a call back, ok?"

:rofl:

PB
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King_David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:03 PM
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9. Ha Ha
I really thought that was funny.
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:38 PM
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4. no brainer
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:40 PM
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5. And, the difference between acts like these and "terrorism" is...????
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 04:18 PM
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15. Richard Silverstein just made up some facts about Israel's supposed involvement
His fiction hardly rises to the level of terrorism.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:48 PM
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6. As I understand it, they were moving explosives at the time of the explosion.
Because of embargoes, Iran has the habit of keeping all of their military hardware far beyond it's rated lifespan. Most forms of explosives become more unstable as they age. One plus one...
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vminfla Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 02:55 PM
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13. So...just another case of premature detonation?
It happens. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:50 PM
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8. One way to make sure the US will go to war with Iran
Make it Israel's fault, Iran attacks Israel :nuke: therefore, the US attacks Iran. :nuke:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 05:12 AM
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10. Borger doesnt credit Tikun Olam as the first source in the world to report this
I note Borgers report credits Karl Vicks Time Magazine report based on a western intelligence official (likely American) who also claimed it was Mossad handiwork. But Borger doesnt credit Tikun Olam as the first source in the world to report this. Based on Julian Assanges decision to renounce the so-called authorized biography Borger wrote of him, I can see why he mightve made such a decision. As far as the MSM is concerned, Rodney Dangerfield had it about right: we dont get no respect.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 08:21 AM
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11. I would wager it all still goes back to Silverstein.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-11 08:21 AM by bemildred
These things take on a life of their own, once they have left the hands of their creator. It's funny to watch.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 02:41 PM
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12. And where does his information track back to?
Anonymous unnamed sources? Are they real or imaginary?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 03:53 PM
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14. All I have seen is some anonymous source "linked to" Iran.
I mean it could be me, I used to be friends with a Persian guy.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 11:17 AM
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16. Iran paper: Deadly blast occurred during intercontinental missile test
Government newspaper in Iran quotes brother of dead Revolutionary Guard commander saying accidental explosion took place during missile test; Iranian officials have denied press speculation on Israeli involvement.

The brother of an Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander killed in an explosion at an ammunition depot west of Tehran last week has been quoted by a government daily as saying that the dead man was testing an intercontinental missile.

Gen. Hasan Tehrani Moghaddam was killed together with 20 other Guard members Nov. 12 at a military site outside Bidganeh village, 25 miles (40 kilometers) southwest of Tehran. The Revolutionary Guard said the accidental explosion occurred while military personnel were transporting munitions.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-pape...
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