NGOs - The New Israel Fund and the Propaganda War Against Israel

[rini]

The primary threats to Israel's survival do not come from Iran's weapons of mass destruction, or from Palestinian terrorists. Rather, the deeper danger comes from the continuing propaganda campaign that rejects Israel's legitimacy and seeks to rollback the UN partition decision of November 1947. This campaign produced the infamous UN resolution equating Zionism with racism in 1975, which was revived in the 2002 Durban conference. The Israel-bashers have shifted the focus away from the Palestinian responsibility for terrorism and the failure of the Oslo process, while promoting the great lies of massive human rights violations by Israel.






http://www.israelbehindthenews.com/#warning

[bluesoul]

1. This is so

funny...

[meti57b]

2. there definitely is a propaganda campaign.

Even on this forum there is much questioning of Israel's very right to exist. Many of the discussions are built around dismantling Israel as a Jewish state. The one-state solution does mean dismantling Israel as a Jewish state.

"The primary threats to Israel's survival do not come from Iran's weapons of mass destruction, or from Palestinian terrorists. Rather, the deeper danger comes from the continuing propaganda campaign that rejects Israel's legitimacy and seeks to rollback the UN partition decision of November 1947."

[tinnypriv]

3. Yep

And in recent days most of those discussions have been based on right-wing Israeli settler plans.

Funny how you forgot to mention that :eyes:

[bluesoul]

4. Much questioning of Israel's very right to exist?!?

Please do quote all those posters that have questioned Israel's right to exist. If you do not, this is only slander and throwing accusations that have no base in reality. From critising Sharon one suddenly becomes someone questioning Israel's right to exist. Go figure...:crazy:

[tinnypriv]

5. Forget it

You won't get a response. This is the standard vocation of those attemping to quell any criticism of Israel - misdirection, slander, lies etc. It just comes naturally I guess.

I find it mostly happens on U.S. sites though (or sites directed to a U.S. audience). If you attempted to post this sort of nonsense on a progressive Israeli forum, you'd be laughed at - rightly.

[meti57b]

6. thought I was clear about that ....

I regard the large number of posts advocating the one-state solution.... as questioning Israel's right to exist. It should be obvious that by "Israel's right to exist", I mean "Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state".

[legin]

7. Intrestingly

There was a Ford or Ford Foundation are anti-Semitic story going around here a while ago and it seems from ngo-monitor.org run by the author of this article that they have been a player in the I/P issue for quite a while. From a 15th July article:

"<<snip>>

Conclusion

The Ford Foundation is a large, professional organization with sophisticated internal accountability mechanisms. Its projects are monitored and funds are awarded after considerable checks and reports. The program officers are in constant contact with the recipient organizations and are aware of where and how their money is being spent. The fact that Ford has funded so many highly partisan and politicized projects and organizations, is a statement of the organization's own political objectives.

It is important that the organization decides what direction it intends to take. It must either admit that it is not apolitical and has an ideological agenda with regard to the Middle East. Or it should withdraw funding and support from the organizations examined in this report and others that exploit the label of human rights to pursue a partisan agenda. It is simply impossible for an organization to claim that it exists to promote democracy and human achievement while supporting organizations sworn to the destruction of the State of Israel."

http://www.ngo-monitor.org/editions/v1n10/v1n10-1.htm

[ex_jew]

8. Israel's legitimacy

was lost when it occupied the lands of other people. This has nothing to do with propaganda. As to whether it has a "right to exist" - well of course it does. Much as the Palestinians have a right to work their fields in peace. You and I have a right to live, but it can be seriously impaired by our actions.

Do you believe that Israel (in the classic Homeland for the Jews formulation) has a right to exist no matter what the cost to the rest of humanity ? Do you feel that Israel's right to exist justifies the use of nuclear weapons to cancel potential threats such as Iran ? What about my rights as a citizen of the U.S. to live in a country free from foreign entanglements as its founders intended ? Is that right subordinate to the right of Israwl to exist ? I'd rather that it wasn't (not that I have much choice).

[The Magistrate]

9. Worth A Brief Engagement While The Turkey Cooks, This

What is the cost incurred by the rest of humanity from the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish state? No more than a few millions of the five billions inhabiting the globe are directly affected in any way.

There is no particular prospect of a nuclear attack on Iran by Israel, and to pretend otherwise is mere hysteria, at best. Are you aware of any nation in possession of nuclear arms that does not reserve the right to use them in extremis? All nations will attempt to preserve their existence by use of all military force available in situations of crisis.

What earthly expectation has any nation to exist without foreign entanglement, save perhaps a global imperium? A policy prescription dating to the late eighteenth century is hardly a right, and it was a dead letter even as it was spoken, for the U.S. became rather entangled in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars, and continued in various webs of foreign entanglement throughout the nineteenth century. Do you imagine alliance with Israel is the sole foreign entanglement in which the U.S. is involved today? Are not N.A.T.O., the United Nations, and a host of other regional and trade pacts, foreign entanglements?

[ex_jew]

10. What is the cost ?

Perhaps I'm hysterical, but...

We've taken Israel's side against the Arabs for many years. Now the Arabs have apparently decided to attack us as well (9/11). Our government responds by substantially weakening our Constitution and acting in such a way that the rest of the world sees us a threat. Call me hysterical, but I charge at least part of this situation to Israel's existence. And perhaps I'm too concerned about my own welfare and that of my country, but this cost seems quite high.

Of course our support for Israel is not the only thing responsible for the mess we're embroiled in, but it's not making things any better. If Israel did not exist, perhaps we could calmly do business in the Gulf, rather than manufacturing threats that do not exist.

As to the words of Washington, I don't believe he would necessarily believe that involvement in the UN, with NATO, and with regional trade pacts to be "entanglements". If I make a contract with you for our joint benefit, are we thereby "entangled" ? Not as I see it. But if the advantage is all or substantially one-directional, not "at arms-length" as they say in real estate, then there is peril.

Good luck with your turkey !