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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:11 PM
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Is Syria Next Target in the War to Make The World Safe for Israel?
http://www.washington-report.org/archives/june2003/0306018.html

Some members of Congress, apparently upset that the Pentagon’s civilian leadership seems to be vying for the title of chief saboteur of America’s standing in the world, have weighed in to support efforts to make Syria the next target in the War to Make the World Safe for Israel, and to throttle efforts to restart the Middle East peace process.

As senior administration members—led by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, but also including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, as well as President George W. Bush himself—were leveling accusations and unveiled threats toward Syria, Reps. Eliot Engel (D-NY) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) seized the moment to introduce an expanded and toughened version of the Syria Accountability act that died with the 107th Congress.The new bill, H.R. 1828, aims to “hold Syria accountable for the serious international security problems it has caused in the Middle East.”Its short title is the “Syria Accountability and Lebanese Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2003,” with 45 co-sponsors.

After a 36-item listing of Syria’s various sins, ranging from supporting terror and infringing on Lebanon’s sovereignty to developing chemical weapons and “a suspicious nuclear research program,” the bill includes an eight-point, unbinding “sense of Congress” that, among other things, Damascus should stop supporting terrorism, withdraw from Lebanon and comply with U.N. sanctions on Iraq, and Lebanon should deploy its army to the border with Israel, and Syria and Lebanon should enter into “unconditional bilateral negotiations with the government of Israel in order to realize a full and permanent peace.”

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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:27 PM
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1. I have a friend who feels the same
He's a German national who thinks that the Jews are responsible for all the world's evils. I've been argueing a year with him that Jews aren't evil but no luck yet. I even try to tell him that Palestine was never a country but as your article exudes, Jew hating is a sad reality.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:44 PM
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3. Israel
Frisco, it isn't my intent to flame anyone but I really don't think the issue here is Jew hating. Three of my cousins are Jewish and I've discussed this with them and while they don't necessarily agree they can understand the point I'm going to make.

What is going on in the whole Arab world is Israel hating. What we have here in the DU may border on that when you think about how many of us are PNAC and tom delay haters (read the rest of the link in the beginning of this thread). Yes, there is a conflict about what is real allegiance to the USA (and freedom of and from religion) but I don't think it is Jew hating.

Your thoughts?
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:34 PM
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2. Yes,
have you read the Protocols of Zion? It explains it all for you ...:puke:
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:38 PM
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9. this is hillarious
let's skip right past any rational debate at all and head straight for a wallowing in victimization.
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 12:44 AM
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4. It is not anti semetic to speak out against Israel
Just because it is a Jewish theocracy, it doesn't mean every thing that it does is kosher.

I speak out against the government of the US. I do not hate America.

I really do think that we have subverted our interests to those of Israel. There is a very, very strong pro Israel lobby which politicians really have to take into account. Also, a great many right wing fundamentalist Christians think it is neccessary to protect Israel because it says you have to in the Bible. These are the same folks that think armageddon is a good thing.

I know the next arguement that will come up. Someone will say that it's unfair to single out Israel, when there is so much bad stuff going on in the mideast. Well then how come it is ok for them to have nukes, but no one Muslim governments are allowed to have them?

Sure, anti semitism exists in many forms. But a sensible arguement against the United States policies regarding Israel is not one of them.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:52 AM
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6. Israel is an ally
As such, it has many supporters in the U.S. Since it is our only reliable Mideast ally, it has even better status.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:41 PM
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10. conversely
Edited on Thu Jul-31-03 05:41 PM by StandWatie
it would be our only enemy if they had taken up the Soviet's as stronger allies :shrug:

Who really cares anymore, if all you are concerned with is the number of American allies you could have the entire middle east tommorrow if you just rolled in and "regime changed" Sharon and invited the refugee's back, Bush could be Saladin and the entire Muslim world would love us.

I'm not saying that's smart or ethical but if we are just dealing in the pragmatic Israel is an albatross hung around the US neck.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:35 PM
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7. JEWISH THEOCRACY?
How?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 12:52 AM
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5. Thanks, some interesting bits in there.
A litany of desperate stupidity and clueless thrashing about.

FWIW, we are in no condition to take on Syria, although of course
we could bomb the crap out of it; if Israel wants Syria taken down
any time soon, they will have to step up and do it themselves.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:38 PM
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8. There is no war to make the world safe for Israel...
This is a war to make the world safe for American domination over the world. Israel is but a puppet for that goal in the eyes of the PNACers.
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loquat Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:14 PM
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11. HAMAS TELLS ALL ABOUT ITS FRIEND,SYRIA

Saleh Al-Na'ami, a senior political commentator for the Hamas weekly, Al-Risala, related in its latest issue to the BBC/Panorama program about Sharon. Contrary to the consensus in the Arab media, Al-Na'ami states that the demand to prosecute Israeli PM Sharon as a war criminal is hypocritical and that Syria and the heads of the Christian Lebanese forces are the ones responsible for the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. Following are excerpts from his column:


(It is to long to print all.If you are interested I will give you the information where you can get the original and information about Israel)

"The documentary aired by the BBC's first channel has provoked the interest of the entire world... Naturally, many Arab intellectuals were enthusiastic about prosecuting Sharon, and the BBC deserves full credit for its objective handling of the issue..."

"However, with all honesty, there is a certain degree of hypocrisy in the Arab coverage of the Sabra and Shatila massacres!!!!! It is true that Sharon bears (some?) responsibility for these massacres, but the people who committed these war crimes with their own hands, were never tried."

"Moreover, Eli Hbeika who was head of security in the Lebanese Forces when they committed these massacres and who supervised the mass-killings and the rapes, boasted in the film itself that he was never, nor will he ever be tried, and that he lives completely free. The same goes for Fadi Afram, the commander of the Lebanese Forces, who had an actual role in committing the massacres."

"We ask once again the question we have been asking always: Who is protecting Eli Hbeika now, when nobody disputes his responsibility for these massacres? The answer is: The Syrian government who rewarded him two years after the massacre, by appointing him as a minister in the Lebanese government. The Syrian rulers, and first and foremost Bashar Al-Assad, should prove their commitment to the Palestinian cause before they fill the air with their slogans about it."

"Indeed, it is hypocritical to attack Sharon for his part in the Sabra and Shatila massacre, without demanding from Syria and from the Lebanese government to demonstrate minimal commitment towards the Palestinian people and allow the prosecution of the real war criminals - Hbeika and the gang of lowlifes that surrounded him at the time."

"When a committee was, finally, established by the Lebanese government, it acquitted Hbeika of any responsibility for committing the massacres and unloaded all the responsibility on Israel, even though, the court established that it was Hbeika's soldiers who committed the massacres."

"In all honesty, the regime in Syria has not found any flaw in its relations with Hbeika, despite his crimes against Palestinians and Lebanese alike, because this regime has lost the sensitivity to the lives of its own people."

"Someone who murdered tens of thousands in Hamma, cannot be expected to find any flaw in the murder of two thousands Palestinians by Hbeika."

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