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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 01:10 PM Original message |
Strenger than Fiction / Loyalty oath is not about Arabs, it’s about hatred of liberal values |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you I agree with this analysis of Israel's current condition |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Strenger overstates but is still correct... |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I don't think either of those other examples are fascist... |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Something else. There is no separate UK citizenship oath for non-Anglicans.. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. But it's not an oath to anything religious.... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 02:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So who's a Jew ? how is that defined and more over what |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Red herring much? n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Not at all it was an honest question one I wondered about long before this n/t |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Makes no difference... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. True enough however I was curious with all this talk about not religion and such n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. It's not about a swear of allegiance to another people. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Of course it's not bigotted. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. It's actually antisemitic according to the EU 's definition of antisemitism |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Well, at least you're consistent in your dishonesty. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Let's see who's honest, shall we? Let's review some of the EU's working definition... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 04:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. This is America's oath taken when getting citizenship |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. As far as I know |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes, RW'ers like Lieberman and LW antizionists are both enemies of liberals as well as Israel. n/t |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. All enemies of Israel don't hate liberal values. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Unanswered attacks in US military vessels? |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Depends on who you ask. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. There was almost no US aid to Israel at that point |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. You bet it's relevant. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I think you have some mistaken info |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. 'the way that the US military is used to impose Israel's will in the Middle East'.. |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Iraq |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. That article makes it clear |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Iran |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Yeah? Well.... |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Intellectually lazy |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. That's a really good article... |
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kayecy (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Strenger has one take on the Loyalty oath but this JP op ed looks more likely...... |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. We need loyalty acts not Loyalty Oaths |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I agree with this |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Entirely agree with this article (though it's both) |
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