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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 02:13 AM
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"Palestinian Queers for BDS Call upon all Queer groups, organizations and individuals around the
world to Boycott the Apartheid State of Israel"

Following is from: http://pqbds.wordpress.com /

As Palestinian Queers, we see the Queer movements as political in their nature; and ones that analyze the intersections between different struggles, evaluate relations of power and try to challenge them. We firmly believe that fighting for the rights of oppressed and marginalized queer minorities cannot be separated from fighting against all forms of oppression around the world This is evident in the proud history of the queer movement worldwide, which has joined numerous global socio-political struggles against manifestations of oppression, imperialism, injustice, and discrimination wherever they exist. In continuation to this proud history, we Palestinian Queer activists, call upon the LGBTQI communities around the globe to stand for justice in Palestine through adopting and implementing broad boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against Israel until the latter has ended its multi-tiered oppression of the Palestinian people, in line with the 2005 Palestinian civil society call for BDS <1>

For 62 years, Israels oppressive regime of colonization, occupation and apartheid has systematically and consistently denied the Palestinian people of their basic human rights.Palestinians living in the West Bank have been subjected to a brutal military occupation manifested by Israels illegal colonies, checkpoints, and the apartheid wall. Palestinians living inside Israel continue to face systematic, legalized apartheid policies which discriminate against them in all walks of life, rendering them second class citizens, at best, inside Israel. The majority of Palestinians in the Diaspora continue to be denied their UN-sanctioned right of return to their homes The 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza face the most brutal oppression of all as they live in an open air prison after years of the illegal Israeli siege on the Gaza strip, one that was described as slow genocide by prominent international law experts.

This Israeli ongoing oppression of the Palestinian people does not differentiate between Palestinian Queers, and non-Queers. Not only Palestinian queers face these injustices on a daily basis and undergo the Israeli oppression like any other Palestinian, but also our name and struggle is often wrongly used and abused to Pinkwash Israels continuous crimes against the whole Palestinian population. In the last years Israel has been leading an international campaign that tries to present Israel as the only democracy and the gay haven in the Middle East, while ironically portraying Palestinians, who suffer every single day from Israels state racism and terrorism, as barbaric and homophobic.

Thus, we Palestinian queer activists call on Queer groups, organizations and individuals around the world to stand for justice and in the face of Israels pinkwashing efforts through joining the global campaign for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it fully complies with international law, and ends its occupation, colonization and apartheid. We call on you to:

* Endorse the 2005 Palestinian civil society call for BDS, spread it in your Queer community.
* Reject all invitations to speak at and collaborate with Israeli universities and institutions, in accordance with the guidelines for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel set by PACBI <2>
* Campaign against all activities aiming to Pinkwash Israels crimes and oppression of the Palestinian people.
* Organize in your respective communities to initiate BDS campaigns, or join existing ones./div]


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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 02:43 AM
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1. Brave people.
The IDF will be SOOOOO nice to them, I'm sure.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:03 AM
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2. so being gay is now okay in the West Bank and Gaza?
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shira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:47 AM
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3. Yeah, like being Black or openly Jewish in Klan land.
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 06:53 AM by shira
I'm waiting for Queers 4 Palestine and the Black/Jewish alliance for the KKK to join forces someday.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 03:22 PM
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5. let me know when the first meeting is
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:33 AM
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4. It is, if you are seeking suicide by rock
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 03:27 PM
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6. They will work on that. Self-determination HAS to come first.
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 03:28 PM by Ken Burch
But it goes without saying that maintaining the Occupation can't be good for Palestinian LGBT people.

And it goes without saying that Israelis don't give a damn about Palestinian gays and lesbians.

Gays never benefit from the nation they live in being oppressed, any more than anyone else in that nation.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:22 PM
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8. but in the mean time...
unless I'm mistaken, Hamas is a fundamentalist Islamic group

doubt they're going to allow people to be openly gay anytime soon

work on that?

all I can say is a big FUCK YOU





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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:50 PM
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10. It isn't ALL about Hamas.
And the best way to make Hamas irrelevant is to treat Palestinians as humanely and decently as possible. That will do more to stop Hamas than any of your constant invocations of them.

You can't just say "Hamas, Hamas, Hamas" and assume that that ends the discussion. Going on and on and on about this group is a dodge.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 08:06 AM
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13. get a clue
this group is like Jews for Hitler or Chickens for Colonel Sanders

Hamas is a terrorist group

you honestly think they'll just go away

same with the PLO

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:52 PM
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14. No, I DON'T think they'll "just go away"
What you have to do is give Palestinians a reason to back someone or something else. Your "crushing Hamas is all that matters" meme doesn't even TRY to do that.

And its not as if you ever possibly COULD get Palestinians to settle for anything short of statehood, or short of all the West Bank and Gaza, so please stop with the "they'd know their place if it weren't for 'the leadership'" thing.

You've got to accept that force can't possibly resolve this.
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Shaktimaan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 12:46 AM
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19. With all due respect, it is far from that simple.
The Palestinians already have many excellent reasons to back something other than Hamas, chief among them being that Hamas' policies are counterproductive to achieving their ultimate goals of statehood and self-determination. Moreover, it isn't Israel's job to provide options to Palestinians, it is the Palestinians' themselves. Israel's primary job regarding the Palestinians is to provide security for Israel. The needs and desires of the Palestinians don't even register in comparison. So as long as Hamas is perceived as a greater threat to its security than the long term effects of Israel's policies are, then those policies are very unlikely to change.

And its not as if you ever possibly COULD get Palestinians to settle for anything short of statehood, or short of all the West Bank and Gaza, so please stop with the "they'd know their place if it weren't for 'the leadership'" thing.

Interesting statement. Why not?

Not that I think they aren't deserving of the whole WB and Gaza, but when did that become the minimum? It certainly isn't the minimum for Hamas, nor was it for Arafat and Fatah or the PLO. The current Arab plan also requires a just solution to the refugee problem. (Presumably just the Arab one.) Then there's the question of Jerusalem.

But if they could get a deal for something like 96% of the WB and all of Gaza, then would it really be wise of them to reject it? They aren't exactly negotiating from a position of strength here. And the whole idea of the West Bank and Gaza as their rightful land for a sovereign state is relatively new anyway. Jordan only abandoned their claim to it 20 years ago, it's not like this has been the plan from the get go. Heck, even Rabin originally envisioned something "less than a state" for the Palestinians, and that was fairly recently... meaning that if the whole idea of sovereignty is kind of newish in itself, how could the terms of it be so set in stone?

My point is that it seems many people make very arbitrary assumptions about what would be acceptable for a peace deal versus what would be a permanent dealbreaker. I personally think it would benefit the Palestinians long term interests to remain more flexible in their requirements. At a certain point there has to be a cost benefit analysis performed. What is it worth to them to finally get down to the business of building their state instead of perpetually fighting for the right to even have one at all?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 06:53 PM
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15. "The PLO"? You mean Fatah? NT
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 09:01 PM
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16. 6 of one; half dozen of the other
a terrorist by any other name...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-03-10 04:26 AM
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17. Dave, what the hell do you want?
Edited on Sat Jul-03-10 04:27 AM by Ken Burch
You know perfectly well that the only way to end this dispute will be to negotiate with either Hamas, Fatah, or both. There is NO alternative to that.

The war can't be ended without their cooperation, and militarily defeating them is impossible(unless you'd consider bombing the West Bank and Gaza back to the Stone Age Curtis LeMay-style to be an acceptable option).

Why do you keep acting as if we could get rid of Hamas and Fatah and then somehow end up with a new Palestinian leadership that would just placidly accede to whatever humiliating and pathetic mini-state the Israelis would deign to give them? Please tell us why you think it would be, somehow, possible to destroy Hamas and Fatah without, in fact, producing a Palestinian leadership that was even MORE intransigent? You do understand that a World War II ending to all this isn't achievable, don't you?

As Yitzhak Rabin said(before your Likudnik friends killed him)You don't make peace with friends. You make it with very unsavory enemies. That's what the Palestinians are being expected to do, and that's what the Israelis will have to do. The Palestinian side has just as much right and reason to consider the IDF to be terrorists as Israelis have to feel that way about Hamas, so both sides have equal risks to take in this, and equal reasons to feel hesistant and squeamish.

Therefore, your obsession with demonizing the leaders of Gaza(Hamas)and the West Bank(Fatah)serves no purpose and works against any possibility of achieving peace.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 03:54 PM
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7. Myopic stupid propaganda.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:22 PM
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9. to say the least!
tools

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:24 AM
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12. +1000
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:22 AM
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11. An outrage, some say.
How can people in a suppressed minority dare to challenge, even, Gasp!, support a boycott of the nation that rains terror attacks on their families and friends, pursues a stated policy of collective punishment, murders 1400 in a single month, and supported the growth of religious fanaticism in opposition to a broadly based but basically secular ruling alliance?

Clearly, they should ally with those who do such things. ???

What kind of 'reasoning' is being employed by those who argue that the victims of such brutality should ally themselves with those who brutalize their whole people because the brutal clan is less oppressive to those within their clan who have only one thing in common with that group?

Of course, there are historical analogues where such kinds of betrayals within an oppressed group have happened, but that doesn't make it moral or even rational.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 01:28 AM
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18. More from Toronto.
Edited on Mon Jul-05-10 01:31 AM by ConsAreLiars
Outright censorship is not the only means in the Israel lobby's toolkit for silencing opposition. In recent years, Israel has embarked upon a "re-branding" campaign to promote an image of itself as a modern, liberal society with open values while whitewashing its deplorable human rights record.

A key component of this campaign has been the promotion of Israel as a nation with a progressive outlook on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) issues, especially in relation to its neighbors and Palestinian society. There is truth in this, at least for the Israeli Jewish population, but claims that this is of widespread benefit to Palestinian queers and trans people (e.g. Tel Aviv as a "gay Mecca") are unfounded. More importantly, that Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other countries does nothing to excuse the humanitarian disaster that has resulted from its siege and attacks on Gaza.

It was in response to this re-branding campaign that Queers Against Israeli Apartheid (QuAIA) formed. In fact, there are several members of QuAIA who also marched against South African apartheid during the 1980s in solidarity with South African anti-apartheid activist Simon Nkoli, who was a black gay man. Even then, critics disparaged their presence in the Pride parade in Toronto, pointing to relatively greater acceptance of homosexuality in the white South African community compared to blacks living under apartheid. Today, queer activists have begun to label this type of expropriation of the LGBT struggle to distract from other human rights abuses with the term "pink-washing."

QuAIA also endorses the Palestinian civil society call for BDS, and in particular a September 2009 initiative to boycott LGBT leisure tourism to Israel. This campaign was initiated in response to the International Gay and Lesbian Travel Association's decision to hold a tourism conference in Tel Aviv in coordination with an Israeli LGBT group, Aguda, despite the Palestinian call for the boycott of Israel.

From: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11368.shtml


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